N&W Class lights

[NW Mailing List]

Thank you Ken, that's perfect. I made two assumptions that were incorrect.

I thought there were three lenses on the class lamp, not just two.

I thought the mechanism rotated, as opposed to flipping up and down


Mike Rector

On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 7:24 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Mike
>
> If you look down his page to the forth image, you can see the device with
> two green flat lens inside. Those are controlled by a handle outside the
> lamp shape, shown in photo three. It simply flips the lens down to show
> green on both lens, or up to show white on both lens, there is no white and
> green indication showing, it is white, green or off, those are the only
> indications.
>
> The indications are actually somewhat simple, lets do this with using a
> very busy holiday season with heavy passenger business.
>
> These indications are either flags during the day, lamps at night or
> inclement weather, or no flags or lamp indications. I will use lamps as the
> term, even though these trains might be daylight.
>
> First up is Passenger Train No. 4.
>
> The first section, will display green lamps or flags, and may be the
> coaches only, it will be listed as First No. 4
> The second section, will display green lamps, and is likely express only,
> it will be listed as Second No. 4
> The third section, will display no lights, and may be more express or
> mail, it will be listed as Third No. 4
>
> The indication of green lamps means that the operators know that another
> section is following, usually a certain amount of time behind the schedule
> of the first train. The operator watching the train, sees the green lamps
> will note what section is past his tower or station, then when the last
> section comes by, with no lamps lit, he knows that is all.
>
> The next train might be a coal train, and would indicate white to show it
> is an extra or unscheduled train. So it is “Extra east 12XX"
>
> The next train might be time freight, No. 84, which is heavy today and
> being run in two sections, the first indicates green lamps, showing the
> operators that another section is following
>
> The second No. 84, has no lamps lit, indicating to the operator that this
> is the last section of this train, so he knows it has all passed.
>
> Then the next two train might be coal trains, again, with white lamps lit
> on both to indicate an extra train. Extra east 12XX and Extra east 12XX.
>
> Then perhaps it might be another time freight, perhaps No. 78, which is
> not busy this day and only operating as one section, so no lamps are lit.
>
> So out of the nine trains we saw pass our station, the first two showed
> green lamps, the third none (three sections No.4), the fourth white (extra
> coal train), the fifth showed green, the sixth none (two sections of No.
> 84), the seventh and eighth showed white (extra coal trains) and the ninth
> showed none (regular scheduled No. 78)
>
> Does that help explain it? This is a future article in the Arrow to
> explain the indications shown in the rule books.
>
> Best
> Ken Miller
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:38 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > That prompted me to look a little harder with Google. and Found this
> site that explains there are some rotating colored lenses inside.
> > https://www.jeffpolston.com/classificationlamp.htm
> >
> > This helps with another question, which was how should I display colors
> on a Y class loco, if I want to have lighted class lamps? It seems the
> answer is to show white to the front for extra,s and green to either side,
> since two green lenses would be located to either side when white is
> displayed in front.
> >
> > Mike Rector
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 9:33 PM Mike <mrector333 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I did not realize it was done with a colored filter, I thought the
> lenses were colored and you rotated the lantern on standard types like
> this....
> > <image.png>
> >
> > Mike Rector
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 9:30 PM NW Mailing List <
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> > Like the normal class lights, there should be a lever that when flipped
> brings a green lens in front of the bulb.
> >
> > Jimmy Lisle
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> > Date: 9/24/23 8:34 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> > Subject: N&W Class lights
> >
> > How do the class J (and K2/a?) classification light lenses work?  Are
> there color filters inside? Did they have/need green lights?
> > It looks like maybe the lamp could swing forward 90 degrees to show
> green, if that vertical chrome piece I see between the mount and the lamp
> face is a hinge?
> >
> >
> > Mike Rector
> > ________________________________________
> > NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org
> > To change your subscription go to
> > http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list
> > Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at
> > http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/
> > ________________________________________
> > NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org
> > To change your subscription go to
> > http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list
> > Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at
> > http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/
>
> ________________________________________
> NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org
> To change your subscription go to
> http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list
> Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at
> http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://pairlist6.pair.net/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/attachments/20230925/d35836d9/attachment-0001.htm>