Where ie this pic taken

Wed Sep 30 17:28:48 EDT 2020

The USGS has a 1968 topo map available, which might give a clue about a few things, but the wye is gone of course.

In closely examining the Valuation Map from the V-C has been updated by the notes to 1943 with the toilets being installed in the station and some other changes that year.

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=197687

Since the N&W took over in 1919, the valuation maps were generally done in 1916-1917, the ones the ICC is likely to have are the same ones.

Ken Miller

> On Sep 30, 2020, at 4:31 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> Nothing listed under Ashe County (NC) or West Jefferson for any date.  Abingdon has 4 maps circa late 1800s.  Apparently, West Jefferson and surrounding area wasn’t populated enough to justify Sanborn’s map generation “team”.  It’s possible Ashe County courthouse has property deeds showing RR ROW but that would be a significant search project.  Topo maps obliterate the area around the station with post-track-removal images.  Google Earth shows old ROW but the structures have changed so much since 1977 track removal that those images are practically worthless.
>  
> IMO, the ICC would be a good place to check out.  Their 1917 valuation maps are key to ROW research for Southern.  I know the V-C ROW maps are in the N&WHS Archives but they weren’t updated post-buyout by N&W.
>  
> Jim King
> http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/ <http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/>
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>  
> Here is the link to the on-line Sanborn Maps at the Library of Congress:
>  
> https://www.loc.gov/collections/sanborn-maps/ <https://www.loc.gov/collections/sanborn-maps/>
>  
> Scroll down and on the left side, under Location, select "More Locations." Once at that page, on the upper left you can select to sort alphabetically.  Note that listings are by states and counties.  Have fun.
>  
> Jim Brewer
>  
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:03 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
> Thanks Ken.  I have already purchased the second and third items on your
> list  from the Archives.  However, the right of way map (item 2) was last
> updated in 1943, and I am interested in the track as it existed from the
> 50's to abandonment in 1977.  The two drawings (items 1 and 3) are also from
> earlier dates and do not show the track in downtown West Jefferson  several
> blocks to the east of the depot.
> 
> 
> Paul Mandelkern
> Winter Park, Florida 
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> Paul
> 
> Search for West Jefferson in the database turns up these drawings with
> detail, the first two are the most detailed the last is a sketch.
> 
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=200679 <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=200679>
> 
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=197687 <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=197687>
> 
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=96902 <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=96902>
> 
> All three of these show with varying degrees of detail, the track
> arrangement at West Jefferson.
> 
> Best
> 
> Ken Miller
> 
> > On Sep 28, 2020, at 9:45 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>
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> > 
> > John, I am designing a model railroad based on the Abingdon Branch 
> > between West Jefferson and Damascus in the diesel era. Do you know 
> > what the track arrangement was in West Jefferson or where I can find a
> map?
> > 
> > The Radford Division track chart I got from the Society's archives 
> > does not show that detail, and none of the maps available from the 
> > Archives show it either.  The Museum of Ashe County History does not 
> > have such a map. The
> > 1968 USGS topo map shows  a spur line crossing 2nd Street at 4th 
> > Avenue, but it does not continue into downtown West Jefferson.
> > 
> > I know there was a wye just north of the West Jefferson depot, but I 
> > assume there were also spur tracks to serve the Phoenix (Thomasville) 
> > Chair Company and other businesses in downtown West Jefferson.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help.
> > 
> > Paul Mandelkern
> > Winter Park, Florida
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> > I have talked to a friend that lived in the house where the blue car 
> > is parked. The house is out of the picture to the right. He says this 
> > is Whitetop and the depot was probably torn down when this picture was
> taken.
> > Looks like maybe early 70s?
> > John Baldwin. Lansing NC
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