Virginian Coal Cars

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Ted;

Again, Yes. I'm 98% confident that is exactly what they were and where they
were going.  We have pictures of those gons on the PRR north of Columbus,
and on the C&O's dumper at Presque Isle.

And somehow those pictures have ended up in a clinic discussing those gons
and our response to the myth about how they "never never ever ever went off
the Virginian".

Frank Bongiovanni


On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
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> Hi all,
> In the mid 50's well before the merger I saw groups of loaded Virginian
> hoppers, including an occasional group of 100 ton gons, in westbound trains
> going through Circleville. They rolled very noisily compared to the N&W
> cars. Might they have been Lake Erie bound coal from a mine on the
> Virginian and taking the most convenient route?
> Ted Goodman
> Columbus
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> After the merger, which railroad name was on the car was irrelevant. VGN
> cars were just more N&W cars and there was no reason to treat them
> differently. After 1964, you would also see NKP and WAB hoppers but again,
> they were just more N&W cars operationally.
>
> --
> Larry Stone
> lstone19 at stonejongleux.com
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> > On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:48 AM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> > It seems to me that as a boy, I saw a lot of Virginian coal cars, along
> with N&W coal cars, being pulled into Norfolk during the late 50s and early
> 60s.  Do I remember this correctly?  Did N&W also pull a lot of Virginian
> coal cars?
> >
> > Jack:
> > After the N&W/VGN merger hoppers from both roads  would be mixed in the
> same train.  Before the
> > merger I'm not sure.  If VGN delivered a car to N&W at Portlock for
> dumping at Lamberts Point, the
> > only revenue N&W would receive was a switching charge (About $17.60 in
> 1960 prices) and N&W would
> > wind up paying VGN per diem (About $2.16 a car per day), performing
> switching, etc.  One possibility
> > though -- if VGN interchanged the load to N&W at Roanoke, N&W would get
> a a percentage of the
> > long-haul rate.
>       Harry Bundy
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