Head end brakeman-steam era

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Thu Apr 30 13:48:45 EDT 2020


Time dims my memory just like time and soot dim the color of the flags.

Gordon Hamilton

On 4/29/2020 7:14 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List wrote:
> Gordon,
>
> Lucky you to have that chance on an Emma. Beautiful engines and shame 
> one wasn't saved. Proud men and their machine. Wonder what color those 
> flags are? White? Green?
>
> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 03:47:23 PM CDT, NW Mailing List 
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Of course, some locomotives were designed with a large enough cab to 
> accommodate two seats on the fireman's side of the cab.  When I rode 
> the cab of an L&N Class M1 Berkshire No. 1960, several decades ago, 
> from Corbin, KY, to De Coursey Yard, across the Ohio River from 
> Cincinnati, I was able to rest in a seat behind the fireman's seat.
>
> I am attaching a couple of pictures from that L&N trip for no 
> particular purpose to this N&W/VGN group than to commemorate a bygone 
> era common to all steam railroads.  I'm afraid that the names of the 
> L&N crew have long since been lost.  The photos came out surprisingly 
> well considered that I took them with an old Kodak camera with a front 
> that pivoted downward so that a bellows with the lens, shutter 
> release, etc., could be pulled out, a camera that I borrowed from my 
> grandmother to take to college with me.
>
> Gordon Hamilton
>
> On 4/29/2020 1:57 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> Jimmy Lisle gave a good explanation.  A number of states had full crew 
> laws for freight trains: 5. The tender doghouse seemed to be most 
> common for the headend brakeman.  PRR did it.  Interesting that SP did 
> not have them, but their subsidiary T&NO which operated in Texas did.  
> That looked odd with a doghouse mounted off center on a Vanderbuilt 
> tender.  B&O built an extension on the fireman's side of the engine 
> cab for a brakeman's seat.
>  --Rick Morrison
>
>     To add to what Ken has said, the head end brakeman's job was to
>     cut the engine or engine and cars away from the train when having
>     to do switching or yarding the train. He would handle what
>     switches needed to be thrown and relay hand signals while the rear
>     brakeman handled coupling/uncoupling cars. He may also be the one
>     to go to the phone box when the train was stopped at a signal to
>     get instructions from the dispatcher. So, the head end brakeman
>     needed to be...on the head ed of the train.
>
>         Now, if you have never been in the cab of an N&W locomotive,
>     there, for all intents and purposes, is no where for anyone but
>     the engineer and fireman to sit. So, the doghouse is where the
>     head brakeman rode, unless he wanted to stand up, sit on some hard
>     steel or help the fireman out if the coal needed to cut down to
>     the stoker auger in the tender.
>
>     Jimmy Lisle
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