Fw: Questions?? Fw: [DieselRosterData] NS Roster Changes February 2020

Mon Mar 9 20:23:27 EDT 2020

Thanks Russ for taking your time to answer the questions that Herb and I wanted answered. I’m sure that your answers will be of interest to others on my “RXR (Railroad) Superfans” email list. As I have said many times, assistance in finding out answers to questions like these are just one small reason to become a N&WHS member.
Regards,
Norris

Norris Deyerle
Blue Ridge Chapter, National Railway Historical Society Chairman of Virginia's Rail Heritage Region Partners
BRC, NRHS Info: www.blueridgenrhs.org
744 Chinook Place
Lynchburg, Virginia 24502-4908
Cell: 434-851-0151
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Norris:

I am back at my desk and the following are edits for Q #1:

Last order of N&W SD40-2's - #6189-6207, Blt in 12/80.
The SD50S's were also built in 12/80
The first order of C36-7's #8500-8505 were built in 3/81 and #8506-8530 were built in 6/82. The 8531 series C36-7's (Ph. II's with the high cap'y DB's were delivered as NS with NW reporting marks. A couple of the very early 8500's were later rebuilt with the newer DB's.

Regards,
Russ Goodwin
Oakwood, GA

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Norris,

Answers are as follows:

1.  I think the SD-40-2 locomotives listed (6080-6176) may be the last of the pre-merger N&W units.

N&W bought SD40-2's that were numbered 6177-6205 and were bought post 1980. They also bought 6 - SD50S's - #6500-6505, which are SD50 demo units built on SD40-2 frames. N&W also received C36-7's #8500-8521, prior to the merger. There was an order of C36-7 Ph. II's that were bought prior to but delivered after the merger and were in full NS paint.

2. I do not see any SD-70’s listed (?)
     I wonder why?

Most of the NS bought SD70's have been rebuilt into SD70ACC's, 1800 # series.

3. Aren't/weren’t  the SD-80-MAC’s acquired from UP a few years ago?
Seems strange that they would sell the newer 80’s vs the older ‘70’s considering emission standards, ‘Bell’s & whistles’, etc

What NS bought from UP and CEFX Leasing were SD9043MAC's, not 80MAC's. The 9043's were 4300 hp convertable units while EMD tried to figure out a 6,000 hp prime mover. The 16 cyl 712 capped out at 4,500 hp, with the 20 cyl version capping out at 5,000 hp, which is what was in the SD80MAC. The SD9043MAC's NS bought from UP and CEFX have been rebuilt into SD70ACu's and the 7250 series.

 4. Did NS ever buy any new SD-80-MAC’s or were they all bought “surplus”?

Conrail bought the only 30 SD80MAC's ever built, including the two demo units. At the CR split, the fleet was split between NS and CSX, but NS later traded a handful of rebuilt SD40-2s for the CSX SD80MAC'S.

5. The 9000 series GE’s being sold as “core units” for “rebuilds”....I am assuming the engines (& electronics?) will be removed & upgraded? Not sure.

All of the C40-9's and a large portion of the C40-9W's have been rebuilt into AC44C6M's, 4000 series, and most of the remaining units will be rebuilt over the next few years into more of the same.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Russ Goodwin
Oakwood, GA

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Subject: Questions?? Fw: [DieselRosterData] NS Roster Changes February 2020

All,
I’m a retired car salesman and know very little about locomotives. Ha! I told Herb that I know which ones are pretty. I collect slides of locomotives because I like their paint schemes or body designs. Whether they are desirable locomotives to operate will be something that I will leave to the engineers to discuss.
So if any of you care to help answer Herb’s questions I know he would appreciate that. I will also. Who knows? I may learn a thing or two myself. They say we never are too old to teach! I hope that applies to me. LOL! Just reply back to me and I will share your answers with others.
Thanks,
Norris

Norris Deyerle
Blue Ridge Chapter, National Railway Historical Society Chairman of Virginia's Rail Heritage Region Partners
BRC, NRHS Info: www.blueridgenrhs.org
744 Chinook Place
Lynchburg, Virginia 24502-4908
Cell: 434-851-0151
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Subject: Re: [DieselRosterData] NS Roster Changes February 2020

WOW!
The storage line in zRoanoke will be emptying out pretty soon it seems.
I have a couple of observations/notes/questions:
1.  I think the SD-40-2 locomotives listed (6080-6176) may be the last of the pre-merger N&W units.
2. I do not see any SD-70’s listed (?)
     I wonder why?
3. Aren't/weren’t  the SD-80-MAC’s acquired from UP a few years ago?
Seems strange that they would sell the newer 80’s vs the older ‘70’s considering emission standards, ‘Bell’s & whistles’, etc
 4. Did NS ever buy any new SD-80-MAC’s or were they all bought “surplus”?
5. The 9000 series GE’s being sold as “core units” for “rebuilds”....I am assuming the engines (& electronics?) will be removed & upgraded? Not sure.

Thanks for any knowledge you can share.

Thanks
Herb

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On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:42 AM, NORRIS DEYERLE <RAILCOW at msn.com> wrote:

 Thanks to Ed F. for sending this to me to share.
Norris

Norris Deyerle
Blue Ridge Chapter, National Railway Historical Society Chairman of Virginia's Rail Heritage Region Partners
Info: www.blueridgenrhs.org
744 Chinook Place
Lynchburg, Virginia 24502-4908
Cell: 434-851-0151
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Subject: FW: [DieselRosterData] NS Roster Changes February 2020

From: DieselRosterData at groups.io [mailto:DieselRosterData at groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Wester
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [DieselRosterData] NS Roster Changes February 2020

Chris,

Isn't NS 7229 an SD70ACu? Did they sell one of those off?

Paul

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:45 PM Christopher Duva <duvac12 at gmail.com<mailto:duvac12 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Some of this has been mentioned already in other messages, feel free to correct any of this as usual. A lot of retirements and sales this month.

Retired:

NS 2368 (MP15E) To Progress Rail

NS 2374 (MP15E) To Progress Rail

NS 2381 (MP15E) To Progress Rail

NS 2556 (SD70) To Progress Rail

NS 2557-2580 (SD70) To Progress Rail

NS 3030 (GP40-2) To The Prairie Line (TPLX)

NS 3208 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3210 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3213 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3221 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3237 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3238 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3259 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3269 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3273 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3275 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3288 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3292 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3297 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3319 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3333 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3340 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3348 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3368 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3384 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3386 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3401 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3405 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3420 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3451 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3471 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3487 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3498 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3499 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3501 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3502 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3504 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3507 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3510 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3513 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3522 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3529 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3536 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3538 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3562 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3575 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 3577 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 5202 (GP38-2) To LTEX

NS 5276 (GP38-2) To Progress Rail

NS 6080 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 6099 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 6123 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 6133 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 6138 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 6176 (SD40-2) To LTEX

NS 7200-7205 (SD80MAC) To Progress Rail

NS 7206 (SD80MAC) To CP for Parts
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