Virginian PA Speed

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If VGN only wanted a single expansion type, a low-drivered 2-10-4 would have
worked well especially on the east end.  The tractive power with a booster
of the 2-10-4 would have equaled the AG and the maximum drawbar horsepower
would have been in the 35 MPH range which would have been good for both coal
and time freight service.  

Bud Jeffries

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The AGs and BAs were bought when an ex-C&O man came over to be president. 
He bought engines that the C&O liked.  He evidently had no concept of the
horsepower curve or top speeds.  They hadn't seemed to be important on the
C&O either.  VGN would have been more economically served by an engine like
N&W's Y-6, (so would the Clinchfield) but nobody believed what these engines
were doing on N&W.

- Ed King

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Ken,

VGN was a 35 MPH railroad and it had BAs and AGs that couldn't be used to
their full capacity.  Interesting.

Bud Jeffries

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Thanks very much! That's very helpful.
-Phil Miller

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Just found this while moving my timetable collection this afternoon.

N&W Norfolk Division Timetable No. 16, effective 12:01 am, Tuesday, December
1, 1959

Page N-26
Maximum Permissible Speed Table listed
Portlock to South Roanoke
Engines Class DE-S and DE-RS, Passenger Trains; 55 mph, Time and Local
Freight Trains, 45 mph; Other Trains, 35mph Engines Class DE-38, Passenger
Trains, 55 mph; Time and Local Freight Trains 45 mph;  Other Trains, 35mph
Engines Class PA and BA, Passenger Trains, 55 mph; Time and Local Freight
Trains, 45 mph; Other Trains, 35mph

I thought that was pretty interesting, I only listed the top three lines,
but that would have to be the only place that Virginian steam was listed in
an N&W employee timetable.

Hard to imagine that stuff that had been out of service for over three and a
half years would even have been listed.

Best
Ken Miller
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