NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 183, Issue 30
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Sat Feb 8 19:14:52 EST 2020
In June 1947 the ICC required that a railroad be equipped with block
signals in order for passenger trains operate 60 mph or above, so
without block signals on most of the VGN, passenger trains after that
date would have been restricted to no more than 59 mph. Was this ever
exceeded??? As a practical matter, who knows???
Gordon Hamilton
On 2/8/2020 11:29 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> AS a Kid I rode behind the Pacifics many times but going WEST to Mullens to
> visit my Grandfather Cawley .They never reached anywhere near even 60 (I
> don't think) But That was WEST of Roanoke!!! Wonder what they could do EAST
> to Victoria/Norfolk ? Ken Tanner (missing Roanoke)
>
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> 1. Fw: Pacific 578 recordings & The N&WHS Preservation Mission
> (NW Mailing List)
> 2. Virginian PA locomotive speed (NW Mailing List)
> 3. Re: Virginian PA locomotive speed (NW Mailing List)
> 4. RE: Virginian PA locomotive speed (NW Mailing List)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 02:52:00 +0000
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Fw: Pacific 578 recordings & The N&WHS Preservation Mission
> Message-ID: <mailman.556.1581075973.21914.nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Hopefully this recording project will become available through the N&WHS
> Commissary sooner than later. I read an interesting comment that was said
> why the couple that made these recordings didn?t make them commercially
> available years ago. The couple did not want to compete with the O. Winston
> Link N&W recordings from that time period! I would like those of you that
> are holding onto photos, recordings or even newspaper articles on historic
> railroads to make them available for sale and/or distribution while those
> few folks that grew up during the Age of Steam are still alive to enjoy
> them. I think you will find that this new information will generate interest
> by younger people. You will still be around to answer questions for them and
> hopefully make them want to pass on their interest in trains and why they
> are so important in the building of America! Don?t let your historical
> railroad items end up in a landfill!
> You will be so happy that you did save them! Spread the word about the N&WHS
> and it?s important mission of railroad preservation for future generations!
> All aboard!
> Norris
>
> Norris Deyerle
> Blue Ridge Chapter, National Railway Historical Society Chairman of
> Virginia's Rail Heritage Region Partners
> Info: www.blueridgenrhs.org
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> Lynchburg, Virginia 24502-4908
> Cell: 434-851-0151
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> Jim,
>
> I also would be interested in this cd.
>
> Steven Ashley
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020, NW Mailing List
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
> As I mentioned before, I have Bill Bauer?s 1/4 inch tape recordings and
> recently released his chase of Y6 2136 on a mine run in 1958. Bill also rode
> trains 5 & 6 and recorded much of those runs from the baggage car at the
> head of the train. Pacific 578?s Hancock whistle is very prominent in those
> recordings and Bill captured some great sound as the train got up to speed
> out of Bluefield, Va before working it?s way toward Norton over grades,
> trestles, and through tunnels. He kept the recorder going at some of the
> station stops where you hear talk from the crew and ground personnel and
> related activity. If there is sufficient interest, I?ll produce a CD from
> those trips.
>
> -Jim Herron
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> Subject: Virginian PA locomotive speed
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> Hello,
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> I wondered if anyone can tell me how fast the Virginian PA passenger
> locomotives could or did run? I?m wondering about their designed top speed
> and normal schedule running speed. I?m sure it?s slower than the N&W J?s but
> would they have been comparable to older N&W passenger engines?
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> Phil Miller
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> Subject: Re: Virginian PA locomotive speed
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> With the 69? drivers and the cylinder dimensoins, the PA?s could be expected
> to cruise at 85 MPH range. The N&W 100-series engines could be expected to
> run in the same range.
>
> The Js can?t be considered in comparison with ANY other steam locomotive.
> They were so well designed including their counterbalancing that they could
> operate comfortably at driver RPMs in excess of 500 and could reach speeds
> in excess of that.
>
> Remember that if a locomotive operating a a speed equalling their driving
> wheel diameter, those wheels will be turning up 336 RPM. There were many
> locomotives that could operate in the 400 RPM range. There were others not
> comfortable at 336 (the Atlantic Coast Line?s 1800-series Northerns, for
> example).
>
> - Ed King
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> Subject: Virginian PA locomotive speed
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> Hello,
>
> I wondered if anyone can tell me how fast the Virginian PA passenger
> locomotives could or did run? I?m wondering about their designed top speed
> and normal schedule running speed. I?m sure it?s slower than the N&W J?s but
> would they have been comparable to older N&W passenger engines?
>
>
>
> Phil Miller
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> Thanks for the info. Wow. I didn?t think they could go that fast.
>
> -Phil Miller
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>
>
> With the 69? drivers and the cylinder dimensoins, the PA?s could be expected
> to cruise at 85 MPH range. The N&W 100-series engines could be expected to
> run in the same range.
>
>
>
> The Js can?t be considered in comparison with ANY other steam locomotive.
> They were so well designed including their counterbalancing that they could
> operate comfortably at driver RPMs in excess of 500 and could reach speeds
> in excess of that.
>
>
>
> Remember that if a locomotive operating a a speed equalling their driving
> wheel diameter, those wheels will be turning up 336 RPM. There were many
> locomotives that could operate in the 400 RPM range. There were others not
> comfortable at 336 (the Atlantic Coast Line?s 1800-series Northerns, for
> example).
>
>
>
> - Ed King
>
> From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
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> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 12:13 PM
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> To: 'NW Mailing List'
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> Cc: NW Mailing List
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> Subject: Virginian PA locomotive speed
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I wondered if anyone can tell me how fast the Virginian PA passenger
> locomotives could or did run? I?m wondering about their designed top speed
> and normal schedule running speed. I?m sure it?s slower than the N&W J?s but
> would they have been comparable to older N&W passenger engines?
>
> Phil Miller
>
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