Virginian PA locomotive speed

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Well, if the PRR T-1 group actually build a replica, they could get 
worldwide publicity if they could use the Northeast Corridor to do a 
high speed test run and shatter all previous steam records. Good PR for 
Amtrak, too.

     WJPowers

On 2/7/2020 7:37 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List wrote:
> Personal opinion:  Land speed records should be accepted only if 
> standardized
> conditions have been established in advance.  Example: records in 
> track and field
> require an eight lane track; specified head wind / tail wind, etc.
>
> The claim of 112.5 mph for NYC 999 is dubious; because of known factors of
> boiler capacity and cylinder volume; also because observations were 
> largely estimated.
>
> The 'World Record' of 126 mph for Mallard is likewise dubious, because 
> it was established
> on a downhill grade and documented by what some consider as a couple 
> of 'blips' on the
> chart.
>
> From what I have read, the reported 140 mph for a T-1 is too poorly 
> documented to
> be accepted as fact.  But 'legends' seem to have a life of their own.
>
> Jerome Crosson.  Formerly NJ; now NWHS residing in St. Peters MO.  
> Maybe I'll see
> you at NMRA 2020 in St. Louis.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: Virginian PA locomotive speed
>
> What’re your thoughts on the anecdotal reports of PRR T-1’s hitting 
> the 140 mph mark west of Crestline, OH?
>
> It’s been a while but I think the first time I read that might’ve been 
> in Alvin Stauffer’s book on Pennsy Power.
>
> Patrick Whalen
> Radnor, PA
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:07 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List 
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the info. Wow. I didn’t think they could go that fast.
>     -Phil Miller
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>     *Sent:* Friday, February 07, 2020 2:51 PM
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>     *Subject:* Re: Virginian PA locomotive speed
>     With the 69” drivers and the cylinder dimensoins, the PA’s could
>     be expected to cruise at 85 MPH range.  The N&W 100-series engines
>     could be expected to run in the same range.
>     The Js can’t be considered in comparison with ANY other steam
>     locomotive.  They were so well designed including their
>     counterbalancing that they could operate comfortably at driver
>     RPMs in excess of 500 and could reach speeds in excess of that.
>     Remember that if a locomotive  operating a a speed equalling their
>     driving wheel diameter, those wheels will be turning up 336 RPM. 
>     There were many locomotives that could operate in the 400 RPM
>     range.  There were others not comfortable at 336 (the Atlantic
>     Coast Line’s 1800-series Northerns, for example).
>     - Ed King
>     *From:*NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
>     *Sent:*Friday, February 07, 2020 12:13 PM
>     *To:*'NW Mailing List'
>     *Cc:*NW Mailing List
>     *Subject:*Virginian PA locomotive speed
>     Hello,
>     I wondered if anyone can tell me how fast the Virginian PA
>     passenger locomotives could or did run?  I’m wondering about their
>     designed top speed and normal schedule running speed. I’m sure
>     it’s slower than the N&W J’s but would they have been comparable
>     to older N&W passenger engines?
>     Phil Miller
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