S1 whistles

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Sat Feb 1 16:23:35 EST 2020


Strasburg made the 7" and 12" whistle bells in their shop from N&W prints.
I was able to persuade my boss to go that route vs. using a chime whistle
which was preferred in Pennsy territory.

Rick Musser

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 1:04 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Well said Ed King that my thoughts exzacly. The seven inch top was N&Ws
> standard fright whistle before the Hancocks been discussed here many times
>
> Larry Evans
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 1, 2020, at 7:46 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Well, here’s what I remember.
>
> First – the 475 has a hooter with a seven-inch bell, shorter and
> higher-pitched than the standard 12-inch (?) hooter.  My understanding is
> that the 7-inch hooter was replaced by the 12-inch job; I don’t know where
> the Strasburg got a 7-incher.  The sounds of the regular hooter varied as
> to the boiler pressure of the locomotive to which they were attached.  The
> A and Y-5 plus engines with 300 punds sounded different than the K_1/S-1as
> with 220.  The Ms with 200 pounds didn’t sound too much different than the
> 220s and the Y-3/3a/4 with 270 didn’t sound too much different from the
> 300-pound engines.  And there was always F. T. Nichols’ screamer which he
> used on the Abingdon Branch.
>
> The passenger engines of the streamlined engines were handicapped by being
> down inside the skyline casing and the Ks with 220 pounds sounded different
> from the 300-pound Js.
>
> For my money  the best sounding chimes were those on the two Pacifics used
> on the Clinch.  They were out in the open on the side of the steam dome,
> and they’d echo down the hollows along the Clinch and make you homesick on
> your own back porch.
>
> - Ed King
>
> *From:* NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
> *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2020 3:57 PM
> *To:* NW Mailing List
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> *Subject:* Re: S1 whistles
>
> Using the same freight whistles as the A, Y, etc sounds reasonable. Were
> there 2 freight whistles? The reason I ask is because the hooter I have
> heard on all recordings of the A, Y, Z and all sounded different from what
> I have heard on recordings of the M's. Boiler pressure? The whistle USUALLY
> used on the 475 at Strasburg has a different sound than the "hooter".
>
> I think the BP may be the reason the K-2 sounds slightly different than
> the J as I'm told they had the same Hancock whistles. Is that true?
>
> I think the N&W should have copied the special whistle from the 382 and
> used that one more! LOL
>
> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2020, 02:47:24 PM CST, NW Mailing List <
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>
> It seems to me that the S1a whistle would be a little quieter (not as
> loud) than the other engines using the standard hooter due to boiler
> pressure differences. I don’t see why N&W would design a special whistle
> for the switchers when their standard whistles were probably readily
> available.
>
> I have Bill Bauer’s recordings from 1958 and some are noted as S1 or S1a
> engines. There may be some whistling on one of them.
>
> -Jim Herron
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