S1 whistles

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Hi, Ed.
Thanks for that information. Personally I don't care for the whistle sounds from the 475 now. It reminds me of the D&RGW K-27 engines. I knew steam pressure made a whistle sound different just like the difference between using steam and air at the same pressure.
I realized the BP made a big difference when I got a recording of the NKP 759 on the N&W with a J whistle many years ago. Very nice but definitely a different sound. I agree with them being down inside the shroud they also had  different sound.
The same for the whistle being on a dome and mounted angled forward or backward like they sometimes did with NKP Berkshires over the years.
Sure be nice to have recordings of the Clinch Pacifics and S or M classes. I don't recall ANY Pacific recordings and the S stuff is from switching around the Roanoke station area. The only M sounds I know of are the 382 with the Nichols whistle.
I understand his fascination with the mainline steamers but it's a shame Link didn't record the smaller engines.
Many thanks to all that helped with this question.
Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works 

    On Saturday, February 1, 2020, 06:46:56 AM CST, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:  
 
 Well, here’s what I remember. First – the 475 has a hooter with a seven-inch bell, shorter and higher-pitched than the standard 12-inch (?) hooter.  My understanding is that the 7-inch hooter was replaced by the 12-inch job; I don’t know where the Strasburg got a 7-incher.  The sounds of the regular hooter varied as to the boiler pressure of the locomotive to which they were attached.  The A and Y-5 plus engines with 300 punds sounded different than the K_1/S-1as with 220.  The Ms with 200 pounds didn’t sound too much different than the 220s and the Y-3/3a/4 with 270 didn’t sound too much different from the 300-pound engines.  And there was always F. T. Nichols’ screamer which he used on the Abingdon Branch. The passenger engines of the streamlined engines were handicapped by being down inside the skyline casing and the Ks with 220 pounds sounded different from the 300-pound Js. For my money  the best sounding chimes were those on the two Pacifics used on the Clinch.  They were out in the open on the side of the steam dome, and they’d echo down the hollows along the Clinch and make you homesick on your own back porch. - Ed King From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 3:57 PMTo: NW Mailing List Cc: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: S1 whistles Using the same freight whistles as the A, Y, etc sounds reasonable. Were there 2 freight whistles? The reason I ask is because the hooter I have heard on all recordings of the A, Y, Z and all sounded different from what I have heard on recordings of the M's. Boiler pressure? The whistle USUALLY used on the 475 at Strasburg has a different sound than the "hooter".  I think the BP may be the reason the K-2 sounds slightly different than the J as I'm told they had the same Hancock whistles. Is that true?
 I think the N&W should have copied the special whistle from the 382 and used that one more! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works  On Friday, January 31, 2020, 02:47:24 PM CST, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:   It seems to me that the S1a whistle would be a little quieter (not as loud) than the other engines using the standard hooter due to boiler pressure differences. I don’t see why N&W would design a special whistle for the switchers when their standard whistles were probably readily available. 
 I have Bill Bauer’s recordings from 1958 and some are noted as S1 or S1a engines. There may be some whistling on one of them.
 -Jim Herron
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