boiler explosions and the like.

NW Mailing List nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Wed Apr 3 13:22:52 EDT 2019


In Britain loco boilers were fitted with fusable plugs, these melted before
crown sheet failure, exhausting steam safely.  I could never understand why
these were not used in the US.
Regards,
Richard Hood
England

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 16:24 NW Mailing List, <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> Regarding graphic descriptions of boiler blowup aftermath's:
>
> The older newspapers were especially graphic with their details
> regarding boiler events and their aftermath. A head here, an arm,
> there; and so forth. They didn't hold back much way back when.
> Somewhere around the turn of the century from 1899-1900 they got a lot
> more tame and less lurid in their details. That said, whenever a
> locomotive boiler went ka-plooey, anyone anywhere near the thing
> visited the promised land. Ed King's excellent descriptions of what
> takes place with a fraction of a second were quite sobering and worth
> rereading whenever you expect to get anywhere near one of these
> things. That was in an older Trains Magazine. He doesn't go into the
> graphic nature of what happens to a human body, but does describe what
> occurs at the cab and crown sheet. Kind of keeps your mind on an
> honest track that way.
>
> The descriptions elsewhere of the C&O Allegheny at Hinton are
> particularly noteworthy from a C&O HS descriptive point of view:
> picture this - the boiler of that engine became a momentary rocket
> ship until its fuel was expended and in those brief moments, it blew
> several hundred feet in the air and landed 100 yards ahead of the now
> empty shell on an empty frame. Think about the force that entails
> .......... or maybe not.
>
> Bob Cohen
>
>
>
>
>
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> >>    1. Re: VGN #800 (NW Mailing List)
> >>    2. Re: VGN #800 (NW Mailing List)
> >>    3. Date correct (NW Mailing List)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 03:27:11 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: VGN #800
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.429.1554202092.14038.nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> >>
> >>  Ed,
> >> I had the privilege of befriending Mr. Weatherly, apparently about a
> >> decade
> >> after you were there. After classes at the community college I would
> slip
> >> down to JK and visit with Mr. Weatherly. I spent many hours hanging on
> >> the
> >> bottom half of the dutch-door at the entrance to the office.
> >> I, too, heard the story of the 800, and many, many more. It was a great
> >> place to learn railroading from some of the best.
> >> Jeff Sanders
> >>
> >>     On Monday, April 1, 2019, 7:12:15 PM EDT, NW Mailing List
> >> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  My good friend the late Clyde Weatherly was the operator at JK Tower
> >> that
> >> morning and handed up the orders to the 800.? Weatherly said that the
> >> brakeman caught the orders because Dudding was already asleep braced
> >> against
> >> the cab window frame.? Weatherly also said that Dudding was known for
> >> enjoying the big city of Roanoke and getting his rest on his way home to
> >> Victoria.? This was the fireman?s first trip east; he fired the 800 west
> >> from Victoria and did not want to work it back but there was no one else
> >> in
> >> town.? After Weatherly got off work, he went to Stewartsville to the
> >> scene
> >> and it was not pretty.? I remember his description of Dudding?s remains
> >> which was graphic and not suitable for a family chat room.?- Ed
> >> King?From:
> >> NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 1:01
> >> PMTo:
> >> NW Mailing List Cc: NW Mailing List Subject: VGN #800?I haven't seen a
> >> post
> >> on this subject yet today. I bring it to your attention because I
> believe
> >> it
> >> worthy to remember the souls lost
> >>   on this day 78 years ago on our Virginian Railway.?At approximately
> >> 5:20
> >> am on April 1, 1941 Engineer John (Goldie) Dudding, Fireman Meade Brown
> >> and
> >> Head Brakeman Hollie Harrison lost their lives when the mammoth 800,
> >> Class
> >> AE 2-10-10-2 blew up between Stewartsville and Goodview, VA.?The story
> >> has
> >> been recalled many times, so I will not go into details now. For more
> >> details you may go to H. Reid's VIRGINIAN RAILWAY, Kalmbach Publishing,
> >> 1961, pages 92-95.?Jeff Sanders
> >> ??
> >>
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> >> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: VGN #800
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> >>
> >> Ed,
> >>
> >>      I also had the privilege of talking to Clyde just a week before his
> >> passing about that night before 800 blew up.  I recall him showing me
> how
> >> he, upon hearing about the "incident" as he called it, started searching
> >> all
> >> of the trash and copies of train orders in JK to see if "I missed
> >> something"
> >> as he put it.   Prince of a guy!
> >>
> >> Skip Salmon
> >>
> >>> On April 1, 2019 at 11:27 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
> >>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Ed,
> >>>
> >>>     I had the privilege of befriending Mr. Weatherly, apparently about
> a
> >>> decade after you were there. After classes at the community college I
> >>> would slip down to JK and visit with Mr. Weatherly. I spent many hours
> >>> hanging on the bottom half of the dutch-door at the entrance to the
> >>> office.
> >>>
> >>>     I, too, heard the story of the 800, and many, many more. It was a
> >>> great place to learn railroading from some of the best.
> >>>
> >>>     Jeff Sanders
> >>>
> >>>     On Monday, April 1, 2019, 7:12:15 PM EDT, NW Mailing List
> >>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     My good friend the late Clyde Weatherly was the operator at JK
> Tower
> >>> that morning and handed up the orders to the 800.  Weatherly said that
> >>> the
> >>> brakeman caught the orders because Dudding was already asleep braced
> >>> against the cab window frame.  Weatherly also said that Dudding was
> >>> known
> >>> for enjoying the big city of Roanoke and getting his rest on his way
> >>> home
> >>> to Victoria.  This was the fireman?s first trip east; he fired the 800
> >>> west from Victoria and did not want to work it back but there was no
> one
> >>> else in town.  After Weatherly got off work, he went to Stewartsville
> to
> >>> the scene and it was not pretty.  I remember his description of
> >>> Dudding?s
> >>> remains which was graphic and not suitable for a family chat room.
> >>>
> >>>     - Ed King
> >>>
> >>>     From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
> >>>     Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 1:01 PM
> >>>     To: NW Mailing List
> >>>     Cc: NW Mailing List
> >>>     Subject: VGN #800
> >>>
> >>>     I haven't seen a post on this subject yet today. I bring it to your
> >>> attention because I believe it worthy to remember the souls lost on
> this
> >>> day 78 years ago on our Virginian Railway.
> >>>
> >>>     At approximately 5:20 am on April 1, 1941 Engineer John (Goldie)
> >>> Dudding, Fireman Meade Brown and Head Brakeman Hollie Harrison lost
> >>> their
> >>> lives when the mammoth 800, Class AE 2-10-10-2 blew up between
> >>> Stewartsville and Goodview, VA.
> >>>
> >>>     The story has been recalled many times, so I will not go into
> >>> details
> >>> now. For more details you may go to H. Reid's VIRGINIAN RAILWAY,
> >>> Kalmbach
> >>> Publishing, 1961, pages 92-95.
> >>>
> >>>     Jeff Sanders
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 10:39:05 -0400
> >> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Mailing List <NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org>
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> >> My previous reference to the date of Abingdon?s Section Foreman?s house
> >> was
> >> off by two years. Posted sign says built 1857.  Also, the Town caboose
> is
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