N&W E2a 578 double header in New York Times?

Wed Nov 14 11:46:22 EST 2018

I cover this is in some detail in the book, N&W: Giant of Steam.

Bud Jeffries

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Phil 

The M2 Automatic switcher will be the subject of a future Arrow article, I just came into some photos and some technical data that will be included. The short answer is the experiment was somewhat of a success, but the inexpensive availability of the virtually new ex-C&O 0-8-0s only a few years later made the conversion too costly to be effective.

Ken Miller

  On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:28 AM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

  An interesting display of emissions! The lead loco stack looks quite clear. Was the second loco being fired or were the dampers shut?

  A question:

  The N&W experimented with a one man operation using one of the 4-8-0 types possibly to eliminate crew costs. Does anyone have any information on what was behind this project and what actually happened in any trials or demonstrations? I suspect the all-conquering diesel switchers shut this line of experimentation down.
  There was something similar undertaken in Austria with a minute 2-4-2 oil fired loco for branch line services.

  Regards from a sunny autumnal UK

  Phil Mortimer   

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  Yes, they both have the 18,000-gallon “fish belly” tenders.  These were applied in April 1957, so this is probably is the May 1957 trip.

  Bud Jeffries

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  Anybody notice the difference between the two Pacifics?

  EdKing

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  Thanks to all for info on this Clinch Valley Steam excursion on 5/4/1957!

  The following image via rrpicturesarchives (link from Rick Morrison) is a color version shot a few moments after the New York Times image it appears.

  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1181217

  - Roger Link

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    Interesting article and video about New York photograph collection and working with google to digitize.

    https://www.dpreview.com/news/9040923328/the-new-york-times-massive-photo-archive-is-being-digitized-with-google-s-help

    If you watch the video, there is a image of N&W E2a 578 on a bridge with a double header (at 1:02). I wasn't able to find any 578 double header images in the NWHS online collection.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=bPX-9bTzqZQ

    Anybody recognize this location or excursion? Was the image ever used by the New York Times?

    - Roger Link

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