Water stops

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Thanks Ken.  I'm always interested in learning about train operations.

Jim Brewer

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:11 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> That is correct Jim.
>
> The bottling the air was a fairly common practice, and I do not think it
> became federal law until sometime in the late 1990s. While rulebooks may
> well have prohibited the practice for years, it was still done.:)
>
> Probably the most recent example of bottling the air was the Les Magnetic
> derailment in Canada a few years ago. The crew had tied down some
> handbrakes, but not enough to hold the train, and bottled the air. The air
> bled off, and the train ran away.
>
> As Jimmy said, the close the angle cock on the engine or tender, depending
> on where your train is, tie down the prescribed number of handbrakes, the
> uncouple the locomotive, which separates the air hose and shoots the air in
> the train, clamping the brake shoes to the wheels. Now, depending on how
> tight the brake system is, the air will bleed down over time. Gordon
> explained that well. As Jeff said, you can bleed the air off a car to
> release the brakes. Once the locomotive has taken water and coupled back to
> the train, the air hoses are connected, and the angle cock on the
> locomotive opened, slowly, to put air back in the train. If you cut in air
> too fast, it is possible to trip the emergency brake valve on the
> locomotive, meaning even longer to pump air.
>
> Ken Miller
>
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:30 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> Jimmy,
>
> OK, thanks for the clarification; would the air then have to be pumped up
> before the train could depart?
>
> Jim Brewer
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:54 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/30/2018 5:49 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>
>> Remember, after coming to a complete stop, the brakeman would have to
>> turn the valve (? terminology) on the car immediately behind the locomotive
>> to keep air in the line;
>>
>>
>> *Jim,     Bottling the air like that is a very good way to have a runaway
>> train. That is why it is against the rules. You leave the "anglecock" open
>> on the cars and close the one on the engine!*
>>
>> then the locomotive would uncouple from the train and move into place at
>> the water plug.  The brakeman would have to climb up on the tender and open
>> the water fill hatch; then position the water spout over the tender.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *It might be that the brakeman wouldn't mind helping out with taking on
>> water, however, I do believe that is the Fireman's job. Jimmy Lisle *
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