NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3

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Folks.
It IS the Roanoke Valley. Ken Tanner proudly (Born and raised) Right
There...KT

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: regional nomenclature question (NW Mailing List)
   2. Re: regional nomenclature question (NW Mailing List)
   3. Re: regional nomenclature question (NW Mailing List)
   4. Kingston Branch at Christiansburg (NW Mailing List)
   5. Re: regional nomenclature question (NW Mailing List)


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I agree with Dr. Greer. The term "Roanoke Valley" has been used for
decades.However, very recently, in order to "rename" the area to try to
appeal to a larger visitor base, the CoC and Conv. & Visitors Bureau is
calling us ?"Virginia's Blue Ridge". Go figure!


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Roanoke Valley is what I am most family with, and Blue Ridge would be a
possible second.




Brent

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Everyone probably has a different opinion, but Central Virginia is the
Lynchburg area. The Roanoke area is the Roanoke Valley.



Ken Miller



On Nov 2, 2017, at 7:31 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:



> Okay, we know that we have Northern Virginia from the DC 'burbs south 
> to somewhere; then over towards Norfolk is the Tidewater region, then 
> as you get closer to Richmond it becomes "South Side" which extends at 
> least as far as Lynchburg and Danville. Bristol
 is of course Southwestern Virginia, so what is the Roanoke region best
called ? Southern Virginia? Central Virginia? What?

> 

> I know that you get 70 miles or so west of Roanoke to the Radford area,
and you go a bit north from there and get to the New River Valley, so what
is that in between region commonly referred to?

> 

> Just curious.

> 

> Thanks.

> 

> Bob

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Northern Virginia from Culpeper and north =  NOVA.

DC   =   Mordor  ( sometimes NOVA is part of Mordor)

Wytheville & suthwest from there,  Smyth country, Washington Country,
Grayson   = Mountain Empire,

All of the other far SWVA counties Lee, Russell, Tazewell,  were always
referred to as 'coalfields' .

"Where ever you are, remember, you are there. "
Have a good one !

rob in Philadelphia

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:10 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> An issue even more interesting than the nomenclatures for the regions 
> is the matter of how differently the people speak in those different
areas.
> Just listen to them !
>
>
> The pronunciation of the consonants does not change much from area to 
> area, but the handling of the vowels differs radically.  The big 
> difference, to my observation, is that vowels which are "fronted"
> (pronounced in the front of the mouth) in some areas, are "backwardized"
> (pronounced in the back of the mouth) in other areas.
>
>
> The underlying historical question is:  How did all this happen, given 
> that "Virginia English" began with a common stock of Englishmen three 
> hundred years ago, in Colonial Tidewater Virginia.  The Scots-Irish 
> migrations down the Great Valley a hundred years later no doubt 
> introduced some dialectical variations in pronunciations.  But no one 
> in Virginia today speaks like the British, the Scots or the Irish.  So 
> what in the flaming tarnation happened to Virginia diction...?
>
>
> Mr. Bundy, will you please check the N&W Archives and prepare an 
> appropriate report?  By the close of business on Friday, if possible.  
> We are counting on you, Mr. Bundy....
>
>
> -- abram burnett
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Northern Virginia from Culpeper and north =  NOVA.   

DC   =   Mordor  ( sometimes NOVA is part of  Mordor) 
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Folks in Culpeper, like folks here in Fredericksburg, do not appreciate
being lumped in with that infernal region referred to as "Occupied  Northern
Virginia" by those who are fortunate enough to live south of the  Occoquan. 
 
Greg Harrod


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In a message dated 11/02/2017 4:03:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

Northern Virginia from Culpeper and north =  NOVA.   

DC   =   Mordor  ( sometimes NOVA is part of  Mordor) 


Wytheville & suthwest from there,  Smyth country, Washington  Country, 
Grayson   = Mountain Empire,


All of the other far SWVA counties Lee, Russell, Tazewell,  were  always
referred to as 'coalfields' .  


"Where ever you are, remember, you are there. "

Have a good one !


rob in Philadelphia 


On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:10 PM, NW Mailing List <_nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org_ 
(mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org) > wrote:


An  issue even more interesting than the nomenclatures for the regions is  
the matter of how differently the people speak in those different  areas.  
Just listen to them ! 

The  pronunciation of the consonants does not change much from area to 
area, but  the handling of the vowels differs radically.  The big
difference, to 
 my observation, is that vowels which are "fronted" (pronounced in the 
front  of the mouth) in some areas, are "backwardized" (pronounced in the
back 
of  the mouth) in other areas. 

The  underlying historical question is:  How did all this happen, given 
that  "Virginia English" began with a common stock of Englishmen three
hundred  
years ago, in Colonial Tidewater Virginia.  The Scots-Irish migrations  
down the Great Valley a hundred years later no doubt introduced some  
dialectical variations in pronunciations.  But no one in Virginia today
speaks like 
the British, the Scots or the Irish.  So what in the  flaming tarnation 
happened to Virginia diction...? 

Mr.  Bundy, will you please check the N&W Archives and prepare an 
appropriate  report?  By the close of business on Friday, if possible.  We
are  
counting on you, Mr. Bundy.... 
 

-- abram burnett
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Sent to You from my Telegraph Key
Successor to the MAGNETIC TELEGRAPH LINE of  1844
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