future 611 trips ??

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Thu Jun 1 11:49:13 EDT 2017


Or try the trip to larger population centers, like Roanoke to
Winston-Salem.  Seems a natural trip.  You should have riders at either
end.   Is there a wye in Winston ?

rob

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:29 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Norfolk-Southern-is-open-
> to-Roanoke-area-611-Excursions-in-2018-425564914.html
>
> Sounds like NS is willing to do more Roanoke area trips. But as said
> earlier 611 needs to change up on where she goes to help bring ticket sales
> back.
>
> My vote is a long days round trip Roanoke-Riverton and return. Or perhaps
> some sort of an Overnight loop? Roanoke to Manassas via Riverton day 1.
> Then Manassas to Roanoke via the Southern on day 2? Perhaps the VMT should
> approach NS about going out on the pokey some? Perhaps Bluefield to Iaeger?
> Or Williamson to Devon?
>
> 73,
> Nate
>
> On Jun 1, 2017 05:45, "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>> I dont post much as I am more of a pupil here but I believe we have a
>> limited window of opportunity to get big steam back in action.  I live in
>> Cleveland and at at the Midwest Railway Preservation Society they have two
>> steam locomotives under restoration at the old B&O roundhouse.
>>
>> My point is...the number of people that remember working steam is
>> dwindling; the number of skilled mechanics who can do that type of work is
>> dwindling; therefore it is my fear that as each year goes bye, the people
>> willing to donate money or estate gifts goes BYE.  Now is the time to pull
>> out all the stops and establish self sustainable preservation trusts that
>> ensure their operation for the next 100 years.  The 1218 only has a small
>> window of opportunity to be back under steam, otherwise she will be
>> relegated to Madame Tussauds wax museum status for ever.
>> Operation stirs interest...interest stirs participation and donations,
>> thus longevity.
>>
>> Case in point....how many kids want a lionel train for Christmas any
>> more?   Just my $0.02 worth...
>>
>> Chris Bunsey
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Date: 5/31/17 1:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Cc: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> Perhaps a funding mechanism equal to the donation of the equivalent of a
>> pint of beer per week by a large number of people would work. That is how
>> the Tornado project was funded.
>>
>> For 1218 it has to be worth it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Phil Mortimer
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> NW Mailing List
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:01 PM
>> To: NW Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>>
>> Unfortunately, since 1218 was in the middle of a rebuild when the original
>> NS steam program ended in 1994, many parts were not put back.  The parts
>> that are with her are probably still in good condition, but they may
>> actually have to find or fabricate more parts to restore her today than
>> was
>> necessary in 1987.  Given the cost involved with restoring and
>> maintaining a
>> steam locomotive and the missing components, 1218 is likely going to
>> require
>> a rather wealthy and enterprising benefactor in order to be placed back in
>> operation.
>>
>> Marty Flick
>>
>>
>> ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Good morning from this side of the pond,
>> >
>> > Getting 611 out and about more is a good idea but has problems such as
>> > ensuring the support team and any related rolling stock can also be
>> > accommodated. 611 is a great icon and should be open to a wider public.
>> >
>> > The new Tornado here still brings out the crowds whenever it is
>> scheduled
>> to
>> > operate. Ditto a lot more steam locos cleared for main line running.
>> >
>> > What are the intentions for 1218?
>> >
>> > Phil Mortimer
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of
>> > NW Mailing List
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:24 PM
>> > To: NW Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: future 611 trips ??
>> >
>> >  "Amtrak primarily will run routes during the week, freeing up possible
>> time
>> > and equipment, and cars to rent for weekend excursions."
>> >
>> > Does anyone know where this little gem came from?  I don't know about
>> some
>> > of the regional service, but the national routes don't take the weekends
>> > off.
>> >
>> > I don't really read anything into this regarding NS, at least from the
>> > article alone, but there have been complaints on this list, and I
>> imagine
>> > else where, too, about 611 running the same Roanoke based trips over and
>> > over.  I can easily see ridership dropping, as the mileage collectors
>> and
>> > railfans willing to travel to ride 611 have been there, done that.  It
>> > doesn't matter if they go with NS, Amtrak, or NRHS chapters, but they
>> need
>> > to get 611 on the road to reach more fans.  They need a mindset like 765
>> or
>> > 4449, not 1225.
>> >
>> > Marty Flick
>> >
>> >
>> > ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> http://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/changes-ahead-for-
>> 611-excursions
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > Changes ahead for 611 excursions
>> > >  By Rachel Lucas The Virginia Museum of Transportation is now looking
>> to
>> > expand the excursions to new areas to increase interest ...  |   |
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Kind of sounds like either a) not as many people are riding or b) NS
>> is
>> > looking to punt the trips over to Amtrak.
>> > > Brian Dembinski
>> > >
>> > >     On Monday, May 29, 2017 6:36 AM, NW Mailing List
>> > <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  Has anyone heard of the future of any more trips either at the NC
>> > Transportation Museum or on the NS mainline for next year?
>> > > I just got a message from "a good source" that said this year's trips,
>> > i.e., Monday, May 29th is IT and no more afterwards.
>> > > Anyone else heard anything?
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