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There is a section foremans house, I believe that is what it is, still standing on the Cincinnati district at Perintown, ohio MP 19. It is in private hands now, but has had very little modifications done to it. There is a brick walkway from the tracks up the embankment. The woodwork around the top is very ornate. I do not know how welcoming the owners are to visitors, but you can see it clearly from Round Bottom Road.
Jeff Wood
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I don't know about a "station master's" house, but I do
remember that the Roadmaster of the Pocahontas Division
lived in a standard company house in Bluefield in the
1950's. It? was a frame house, painted in the standard cream
and brown. The reason I know this is that his son was a
personal friend when I was in high school. BTW: his father,
the Roadmaster gave me a job on the section gang in the
summer of 1953.
Jim Nichols
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:48 AM, NW
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Alan
I have to question exactly what structure you are speaking
of. To the best of my knowledge, the N&W never had a
"Station master's house" anywhere on the railroad, I've
never seen the first mention of such in any documentation.
The closest thing to that existing, to my limited knowledge,
is a house in Salem, that was (and still is) located just to
the east of the original N&W/AM&O depot that stood
at the Union Street Crossing. The original purpose of the
building, short of being a house, is unknown, but it was on
the railroad property maps for many years and finally sold
or given to the family living there now. It easily dates to
the 1880-90s. I only suspect that it might have been some
form of home for an official like an agent. However,
interestingly enough, it does NOT show in the 1919 building
lists, but is shown on valuation maps that date many years
afterward.
Generally speaking, to accommodate a station agent in remote
territory on the N&W, they constructed a two story depot
with agent (and family) quarters on the second floor. Those
that come to mind in Virginia are Pepper, Waiteville and
Paint Bank as well as a number in West Virginia, including
War, Panther, Cooper, Maybeury and more that I cannot recall
at the moment.?
There was, however, a fairly common structure called a
"standard house for section foremen" that were built to
standard plans No. L-32, sheets 1-4. The first variation on
these houses was, I assume, a simple one story structure. I
am also assuming they were changed to a two story version
with the revised plans issued in 1937, which is what I have
on hand.
The 1919 building list shows a one story section foreman
house at Island Ford measuring 31 x 42.5 feet as structure
H-1182-A with a tin roof at MP 118. Just a bit further on
down the road, another one story frame section foreman's
house, measuring 31 x 37 was at Port Republic, MP
127.Further south, at MP 147 stood a two story frame section
foreman's house, measuring 32.4 x 37.2 at Lyndhurst. At MP
153, a 16 x 32 section foreman's house.
Anyway, that gives you an idea of the variety of structures
and their commonality.
Now, to you actual question, how many exist today? To the
best of my knowledge, there is no definitive list of such.
It may be harder to recognize them today, as many have been
modified with siding, or new windows, etc. etc. I can say
with fair authority (having not been to a few of these
places that recently), there is one in Salem right next to
the track that has the distinctive porch trim in place, but
has been added on to. There is one at Vicker that has been
resided, there is one at Dublin, Elliston and Richlands. I
am certain there are more.?
Personally, I'd love to see a section foreman's house
preserved as such, with no modifications, but once they were
sold off to private owners, modifications were and are still
common.
BestKen Miller
On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:55 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
My name is Alan Mende, and in 1992 I wrote a two-part
article in Railroad Model Craftsman on the station master's
house at Island Ford, VA.? The house is on the property of
the Coors Brewing Company in Elkton, VA, and I have been led
to believe that the company plans to demolish the building.?
At least one individual in the company believes this is a
mistake and is trying to generate interest in its
preservation.? Can you tell me how many other station master
houses might still remain, especially in their original
location?
Kindest regards,
Alan Mende
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The railroad museum in St. Paul, Virginia, occupies a two
story building that according to the museum originally
served as the office of the N&W's superintendent and a
dormitory for railroad workers and later as the home of the
section foreman and his family.
Paul Mandelkern
Winter Park, FL
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Subject: Re: N&W station master houses still standing
Alan
I have to question exactly what structure you are speaking
of. To the best of my knowledge, the N&W never had a
"Station master's house" anywhere on the railroad, I've
never seen the first mention of such in any documentation.
The closest thing to that existing, to my limited knowledge,
is a house in Salem, that was (and still is) located just to
the east of the original N&W/AM&O depot that stood
at the Union Street Crossing. The original purpose of the
building, short of being a house, is unknown, but it was on
the railroad property maps for many years and finally sold
or given to the family living there now. It easily dates to
the 1880-90s. I only suspect that it might have been some
form of home for an official like an agent. However,
interestingly enough, it does NOT show in the 1919 building
lists, but is shown on valuation maps that date many years
afterward.
Generally speaking, to accommodate a station agent in remote
territory on the N&W, they constructed a two story depot
with agent (and family) quarters on the second floor. Those
that come to mind in Virginia are Pepper, Waiteville and
Paint Bank as well as a number in West Virginia, including
War, Panther, Cooper, Maybeury and more that I cannot recall
at the moment.
There was, however, a fairly common structure called a
"standard house for section foremen" that were built to
standard plans No. L-32, sheets 1-4. The first variation on
these houses was, I assume, a simple one story structure. I
am also assuming they were changed to a two story version
with the revised plans issued in 1937, which is what I have
on hand.
The 1919 building list shows a one story section foreman
house at Island Ford measuring 31 x 42.5 feet as structure
H-1182-A with a tin roof at MP 118. Just a bit further on
down the road, another one story frame section foreman's
house, measuring 31 x 37 was at Port Republic, MP 127.
Further south, at MP 147 stood a two story frame section
foreman's house, measuring 32.4 x 37.2 at Lyndhurst. At MP
153, a 16 x 32 section foreman's house.
Anyway, that gives you an idea of the variety of structures
and their commonality.
Now, to you actual question, how many exist today? To the
best of my knowledge, there is no definitive list of such.
It may be harder to recognize them today, as many have been
modified with siding, or new windows, etc. etc. I can say
with fair authority (having not been to a few of these
places that recently), there is one in Salem right next to
the track that has the distinctive porch trim in place, but
has been added on to. There is one at Vicker that has been
resided, there is one at Dublin, Elliston and Richlands. I
am certain there are more.
Personally, I'd love to see a section foreman's house
preserved as such, with no modifications, but once they were
sold off to private owners, modifications were and are still
common.
Best
Ken Miller
On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:55 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
My name is Alan Mende, and in 1992 I wrote a two-part
article in Railroad Model Craftsman on the station master's
house at Island Ford, VA. The house is on the property
of the Coors Brewing Company in Elkton, VA, and I have been
led to believe that the company plans to demolish the
building. At least one individual in the company
believes this is a mistake and is trying to generate
interest in its preservation. Can you tell me how many
other station master houses might still remain, especially
in their original location?
Kindest regards,
Alan Mende
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