N&W Steam Final Revenue Run

Sat Jul 5 15:09:15 EDT 2014

John

  I got a reply from Lloyd which explains everything it was as I thought 
Ferrell just got all his
info from a bad source John Killoran. John wrote a caption on a photo 
implying he was there on the last
run which he was not. And after you go back and look at the dates and 
compare photos in Larry's article
they don't jive. I have talked to all these guys over the years and they all 
Dave ,Larry, John always maintained
that they were not there for the last run . Lloyd thinks he still has Sam's 
letter and is willing to donate it to the N&WHS. If you wish for Lloyd's 
full reply send me an private mail

Larry Evans
Kenova, WV
lsevans at zoominternet.net

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> Sam was still living a few years back in Florida. I think Ferrell's  just 
> got the
> dates wrong for whatever reason. Funny how a cloud can appear on something
> that was always in stone.
>
> Larry Evans
> Kenova, WV
>
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>> Larry,  Thanks for sharing additional info and being willing to contact
>> Lloyd and Larry. I'm interested in what they have to say. Is Sam Noe 
>> still
>> living too?
>>
>> After my first reply, and upon closer investigation, there are photos 
>> taken
>> at Kermit by Killoran (in Ferrell's book)and Fellure (in Spring 2008 
>> Classic
>> Trains) obviously on the same day, at the same time, but the date given 
>> by
>> each author differs. Ferrell say the date was May 6th, Fellure says it 
>> was
>> April 21st.
>>
>> Maybe this helps in solving this mystery of 2154 or 2190. Looking forward 
>> to
>> what you find out.
>>
>> John Garner
>> Newport, VA
>>
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:38:37 -0400
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>> Joseph
>>
>> All documentation I have seen concurs with what John Garner says here . I
>> don't know were Ferrell came up with 2154 I would like to know his source 
>> .
>> I new John Killoran and remember him telling the stories about the last 
>> days
>> him Larry Fellure , Dave Bond and others chaseing on the Kenova District
>> just never wrote any dates down. Unifortunuly John is no longer with us. 
>> I
>> had always thought none of these guys were actually there on  May 6 and 
>> the
>> date and information came from fireman Sam Noe via Lloyd Lewis. I will
>> forward this to Lloyd and Larry see if they can shed any light on it
>>
>> Larry Evans
>> Kenova WV
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> According to the majority of documentation that I've seen the final
>>> 'revenue' run under steam power occurred May 6th, 1960 on the 2nd Pigeon
>>> shifter from Williamson west to service the mines as far as Kermit
>>> including
>>> the Lenore Branch. The loco was Y6b #2190.
>>>
>>> However Mallory Ferrell, in his book Norfolk & Western, Steam's Last
>>> Stand,
>>> indicates that Y6 2154 made the final revenue run on May 6th on the 2nd
>>> Pigeon, stating that 2190 had operated earlier in the day on the 1st
>>> Pigeon
>>> shifter. His book includes numerous photos taken by John Killoran on the
>>> 6th
>>> at both Williamson and Kermit. These are the only photos I've seen that
>>> were
>>> actually taken on the final day of steam's operation.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to see what others know about this final 'revenue' 
>>> run,
>>> and if there are other 'Final Curtain' photos out there. Do we know if 
>>> it
>>> was the 2190 or the 2154?
>>>
>>> The final loco to operate was a yard job that began on second shift May
>>> 6th
>>> and finished early after midnight on May 7th also at Williamson. The 
>>> loco
>>> was S1a 291 (renumbered from 215).
>>>
>>> A great resource on the final days of steam on the N&W at Williamson is 
>>> an
>>> article written by Larry Fellure in the Spring 2008 issue of Classic
>>> Trains.
>>>
>>> John Garner
>>> Newport, VA
>>>
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>>> Can anyone please provide information on the final revenue run of  an 
>>> N&W
>>> steam locomotive including date, engine class, road number and location?
>>>
>>> Joseph Congemi
>>> Atlanta, GA
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