Northfork Branch signals
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According to my notes, in the mid-1950's the switch to Northfork Branch was
of the electric-lock, hand-throw type. There were no signals to govern
train movements off or on the branch. With permission from the dispatcher,
the switch could be thrown by hand if there were no conflicting movements on
the main line.
Louis Newton
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:42:27 -0400
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> Jim,
> A control point or controlled signal is a home signal controlled by
> the dispatcher. An intermediate signal is an automatic block signal and
> not controlled by the dispatcher. A distant signal is one that tells the
> crew that the next signal is a controlled signal. For example,
> Cloverdale branch is black, Track Warrant territory and has no signals
> for its entire nine mile length, other than an Approach Distant signal
> before the signal governing movement off of the branch back out onto the
> mainline. It never changes, so, does not provide any block protection.
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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> Lynn,
> A control point is a signal controlled by the dispatcher.
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> Jimmy
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> On 8/19/2013 7:42 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Jim,
>> A control point or controlled signal is a home signal controlled
>> by the dispatcher. An intermediate signal is an automatic block signal
>> and not controlled by the dispatcher. A distant signal is one that
>> tells the crew that the next signal is a controlled signal. For
>> example, Cloverdale branch is black, Track Warrant territory and has
>> no signals for its entire nine mile length, other than an Approach
>> Distant signal before the signal governing movement off of the branch
>> back out onto the mainline. It never changes, so, does not provide any
>> block protection.
>>
>> Jimmy Lisle
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> I should have added that the approach distant signal also displays a "D"
> plate on the mast.
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> Jimmy
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> Nathan,
> All of the signals between Sampson and Lynnwood, just like those
> between Calera and Glasgow et. al., are intermediate signals. They are
> not controlled by the dispatcher, only by the signal aspect ahead.
>
> Jimmy
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> The Northfork branch was dark (with a register to sign for access if I
> remember reading correctly). Does anyone know the signal configuration on
> the main relating to the branch? Was there a signal controlling movements
> coming off the branch onto the main?
> Jim Cochran
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> On 8/19/2013 7:55 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Nathan,
>> All of the signals between Sampson and Lynnwood, just like those
>> between Calera and Glasgow et. al., are intermediate signals. They are
>> not controlled by the dispatcher, only by the signal aspect ahead.
>>
>> Jimmy
> Excuse me, that should read/"*just like those between Solitude and
> Glasgow et. al., are intermediate signals.*"/ Sorry if I confused
> anyone there.
>
> Jim & Lynn,
> Signals are not nearly as hard to understand as you are trying to
> make them. It is just a simple progression from one to another. You run
> on a Clear (at prescribed speed) until you get an Approach (prepared to
> stop at the next signal. If exceeding medium speed imediately reduce to
> that speed), then you get a Restricting (proceed at restricted speed [a
> speed that will permit stopping short of a train, engine or obstruction,
> watching out for a broken rail and not to exceed 15 mph]). You run on a
> Clear (prescribed speed) until you get an Approach Diverging (prepare to
> take diverging route beyond next signal) , then you get a Diverging
> Approach (proceed through turnout or turnouts at prescribed speed
> preparing to stop at next signal), then you get a Stop (STOP). You run
> on a Clear (prescribed speed) until you get an Advance Approach
> (prepare to stop after second signal), then you get an Approach (prepare
> to stop at next signal...), then you get a stop (STOP).
> Then you grab your grip, swing down off of the engine, wipe the
> sweat off of your brow and say "That wasn't so hard, was it?"
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:48:42 -0400
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> On 8/19/2013 7:51 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> On 8/19/2013 7:42 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>> A control point or controlled signal is a home signal controlled by
>>> the dispatcher. An intermediate signal is an automatic block signal
>>> and not controlled by the dispatcher. A distant signal is one that
>>> tells the crew that the next signal is a controlled signal. For
>>> example, Cloverdale branch is black, Track Warrant territory and has
>>> no signals for its entire nine mile length, other than an Approach
>>> Distant signal before the signal governing movement off of the branch
>>> back out onto the mainline. It never changes, so, does not provide
>>> any block protection.
>>>
>> I should have added that the approach distant signal also displays a
>> "D" plate on the mast.
>>
> I was just going to ask if that was the case. :-)
>
> Ed Bell
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:27:24 -0400
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> I just got my acknowledgment letter today.
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> Ed Bell
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> On 8/19/2013 7:31 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> A Roanoke Times story appeared this morning in the Fredericksburg Free
>> Lance Star:
>> http://www.freelancestar.com/2013-08-19/articles/15727/museum-train-project-behind-schedule/
>>
>> Is the fundraising effort really behind schedule? I've made a
>> contribution--hope others on this list have also.
>>
>> ~~Bernie Hylton
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