High trestle

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Summit Tunnel on Dry Fork Branch is Tunnel #3.

Louis Newton

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>   1. Re: High Trestle (NW Mailing List)

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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:32:52 -0400

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> Would Summit Tunnel be Dry Fork Tunnel no. 3? We are talking about the Dry

> Fork Branch right?

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> Is this the Viaduct?

> [image: Inline image 1]

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> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 21:37, NW Mailing List 

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>> Dear High Trestle,****

>>

>>                 What you most likely saw was the Trace Branch viaduct. It

>> is 1244 feet long and consists of 27 deck plate girder spans. The maximum

>> height is 125 feet from ground to rail. As a bit of trivia, it is also of 

>> a

>> 1.5% (compensated) grade from Field VA to Summit Tunnel which is  located

>> at the top. It is very impressive and hard to get it all into one

>> photograph from ground level.****

>>

>> Mason Cooper****

>>

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>> *From:* nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:

>> nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] *On Behalf Of *NW Mailing List

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:53 PM

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>> *Subject:* High Trestle****

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>> We followed the tracks down from Berwind to Cedar Bluff yesterday and

>> noted a quite impressive high trestle between Amonate and Bandy. Is this

>> structure the highest/longest on that branch?****

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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:59:03 +0000 (UTC)

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> Subject: Re: N&W Pullman 4137 ?

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> I concur with Jim Nichols' and Marty Flick's posts on this subject.? To 

> the best of my knowledge and information:

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> ?

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> 1.? N&W did not number the S-1 sleepers (or any other of the named 

> sleepers AFAIK)

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> 2.? I have no information regarding any of the S-1 sleepers being wrecked 

> (and scrapped)

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> 3.? None of the S-1 sleepers were named Norfolk Pride.

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> 4.? I have no record of an N&W passenger car numbered 4137.

>

> ?

>

> Marty has indicated he could find no record of any car named "Norfolk 

> Pride."? I will defer to him on that because I have not researched other 

> roads' passenger equipment to any great extent.? I do know there are some 

> books and other resources on this topic but I do not own those (Ralph 

> Barger authored at least one, possibly more, books about Pullmans several 

> years ago.)

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>

> So I think we are dealing with two separate items here; the builders plate 

> certainly appears to be legitimate.? The handwritten note appears to be 

> suspect.

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> Jim Brewer

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> Glenwood MD

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> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:16:57 PM

> Subject: Re: N&W Pullman 4137 ?

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> Assuming for the purposes of discussion that there is at least a grain of 

> truth somewhere in this, the number 4137 could only be the Budd builder's 

> number.? I tried to Google that in case a list of Budd builder's numbers 

> was posted, but apparently not.? If anyone has access to those archives, 

> that might shed some light.? Or, maybe those numbers are cross-referenced 

> on an N&W drawing in the Archives.? If there's no connection there (that 

> builder's number isn't one of the N&W Budd-built sleepers, or it's a bad 

> number) then we clearly default to Jim's analysis.

> ?

> Dave Phelps

> ?

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> In a message dated 3/28/2012 9:23:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 

> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

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> Abram: The number 4137 is meaningless for an N&W passenger car (or 

> Pullman). The date of May 1950 was less than a year after the Budd cars 

> were delivered, and I have no record of any N&W Budd car being wrecked 

> that early (especially wrecked enough to justify loss of a 

> builders?plate). I remember the last time you asked about it on the list. 

> The plate could be legitimate (I never saw one on the 20 sleepers Budd 

> built for N&W, but that doesn't mean they weren't there!). But the 

> information on the business card doesn't make any sense. Some of these 

> cars are silll running on the S.A.M. Shortline?out of Cordelle, GA. Maybe 

> somebody?can examine them to see if any of them still have such a plate 

> somewhere. But 4137? No!

> ?

> Jim Nichols?

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> Pardon me, but I attached the wrong file to my earlier post.? Here is the 

> correct file, a PDF which depicts the plate as well as the front and back 

> of the business card attached to it.

>

> ?

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> -- abram burnett

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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:49:09 -0400

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

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> Thanks to both for the identification and statistics and I agree, it is

> too long for a single photo (see attached). Of course, having a train in

> a photo would really top things off. Mike Pierry, Jr.

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>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM, NW Mailing List

>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:

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>> Dear High Trestle,

>>

>>                 What you most likely saw was the Trace Branch viaduct.

>> It is 1244 feet long and consists of 27 deck plate girder spans. The

>> maximum height is 125 feet from ground to rail. As a bit of trivia, it

>> is also of a 1.5% (compensated) grade from Field VA to Summit Tunnel

>> which is  located at the top. It is very impressive and hard to get it

>> all into one photograph from ground level.

>>

>> Mason Cooper

>>

>>

>>

>> *From:*nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org

>> <mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org>

>> [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org

>> <mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org>] *On Behalf Of *NW Mailing List

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:53 PM

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>> *Subject:* High Trestle

>>

>>

>>

>> We followed the tracks down from Berwind to Cedar Bluff yesterday and

>> noted a quite impressive high trestle between Amonate and Bandy. Is

>> this structure the highest/longest on that branch?

>>

>>

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