N&W Obervations 581 and 582 in Saudi Arabia.

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According to my notes, they were sold in April 1959, I'd assume shipment via rail to Norfolk and loading onto a ocean going freighter there. I do not have any information as to exactly who the two cars were sold to.

In pursuing this almost 20 years back, our understanding was that one car had been scrapped in the late 1980s, the other had been placed in a Saudi rail museum. I do not have any other details.

Ken Miller

On May 30, 2011, at 10:36 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:


> The 581 & 582 were withdrawn from N&W service in early 1958. May 1972 is much too late for them to still be in the U.S.A.   Jim Nichols

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> I looked back at the correspondence about the obervation cars, and did not see the mention of a some what decent picture on Pg 56 of Classic Trains Summer 2011. Taken 21 May, 1972, PRR coach yards, Chicago.

> Gene A.

> Gloucester, Va.

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> Does anybody know the history of the sale transaction of those two observation cars to Saudia Arabia? For example, who wanted them, how they were shipped there, etc. Thanks

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> Mike Weeks

> Greenville NC

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> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:57 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> From zooming out from the spot shown by the link in the earlier string, it appears that it’s near the coast in Ad Damman, off of “Port Street” west of “Dhatran Al Riyadh Road.“ It looks like the tracks dead end up against Port Street.   Here's the link; http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=26.4 ... 6&t=h&z=18

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> One last item. I have colleagues in SA and if someone can tell me WHERE the yard is Ill ask em to take a look - and maybe solve the mystery!

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> >>> Why do you make that assumption?  I've been following this email site for years and can't recall about the cars in SA.  Just would like to know the history - thanks.

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> >There was a photo years ago, I think in Trains, that showed one of the N&W obs in use in SA.

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> I saw that issue and remember the photo.  This has also been documented in several publications including RPC Publication's "Streamliner Cars -- Vol. 1 Pullman Standard."  The Saudi railroad also acquired Burlington Budd diner - lounge observation cars after they were retired as well as a number of other cars... too numerous to list at this time.

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