Powhatan Arrow's stops

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This is a good little Web site that may help pin things down!

http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track1/powhatan195008.html

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On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM, NW Mailing List
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> On the Norfolk Division the Powhatan Arrow stopped at the following

> locations: Roanoke, Bedford, Appomattox, Farmville, Crewe (all trains

> stopped at Crewe before continuing in either direction), Blackstone,

> Petersburg, Suffolk, and Norfolk. I am not sure about Waverly, Wakefield,

> and Windsor.

>

> Bill Mason

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> Salmon (NW Mailing List)

> 3. Re: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip

> Salmon (NW Mailing List)

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> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:17:13 EDT

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> Subject: Re: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip

> Salmon

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> I seem to recall that there is a place along US 360 between Simplicity and

> Meherrin where the N&W, Southern, and Virginian converged and were within

> sight of each other. Could this be the stretch that is in question? You

> can

> find it on GoogleEarth.

>

> Greg Harrod

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> In a message dated 4/11/2010 8:09:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

>

> Jim ?

> There?s about a mile of thick, thick swamp separating the N&W line from

> the

> VGN and SAL lines in the vicinity of Algren; there?s absolutely no way to

> see the N&W from the VGN other along there.

> I would be interested to know if there were any instances of N&W passenger

> trains bypassing Farmville on the belt line. I believe, as you indicate,

> that passenger traffic was typically routed over the old ?High Bridge?

> line through Farmville, and the belt line, with its more favorable grades

> was used mainly for heavier tonnage. Nevertheless, since the Powhatan

> Arrow did not make any intermediate stops between Norfolk and Roanoke, I

> would suppose routing it over the belt line around Farmville would not

> pose

> a problem for passengers.

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> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:41:31 -0400

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> Subject: RE: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip

> Salmon

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> Thank you, Jim, for setting the record straight regarding the Powhatan

> Arrow's stops. I now consider myself properly informed! That's one of the

> things I enjoy most about the discussions of this group.

>

>

>

> How fortunate you were to have the opportunity to ride the N&W back and

> forth during your college days. I was just an infant when N&W ceded its

> remaining passenger operations to Amtrak, so I could only fantasize about

> riding the N&W from Norfolk to Blacksburg when I was a student at Tech.

>

>

>

> I'm not sure where I got the notion that the Arrow stopped only at Roanoke

> between Norfolk and Cincinnati. Perhaps I was getting facts confused with

> Roanoke being where the J's on point were changed out for service. There

> was some really good discussion on that topic on this list a few weeks ago.

>

>

>

> If you don't mind sharing further, what were the stops of the Powhatan

> Arrow

> between Roanoke and Cincinnati? [Bluefield (apparently) .Williamson?

> .Portsmouth?]

>

>

>

> Thanks again,

>

>

>

> -David Rice

>

>

>

>

>

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> Subject: Re: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon

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> Well, no. The Powhatan Arrow stopped in Farmville (as did all other

> passenger trains). I know, because I used to ride it from Bluefield when

> going back to college at Hampden-Sydney. The only other possibility might

> have been troop trains, as they would have no need to stop at Farmville.

> However, it becomes a matter of traffic density, so they probably would

> have

> been routed through Farmville as well.

>

>

>

> As for intermediate stops between Norfok and Roanoke, the Powhatan Arrow

> also stopped at Petersburg and Lynchburg.

>

>

>

> Jim Nichols

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> Jim -

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>

>

> There's about a mile of thick, thick swamp separating the N&W line from the

> VGN and SAL lines in the vicinity of Algren; there's absolutely no way to

> see the N&W from the VGN other along there.

>

>

>

> I would be interested to know if there were any instances of N&W passenger

> trains bypassing Farmville on the belt line. I believe, as you indicate,

> that passenger traffic was typically routed over the old "High Bridge" line

> through Farmville, and the belt line, with its more favorable grades was

> used mainly for heavier tonnage. Nevertheless, since the Powhatan Arrow

> did

> not make any intermediate stops between Norfolk and Roanoke, I would

> suppose

> routing it over the belt line around Farmville would not pose a problem for

> passengers.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

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> What was the Powhatan Arrow doing there? It ran on the old main line

> through

> Farmville. Jim Nichols

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> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:20:50 -0400

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> Subject: Re: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip

> Salmon

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> I had the good fortune as well as many good times of riding the Pocahontas

> and the Powhatan Arrow round trip from Norfolk to Bluefield 1959 to 1963.

> Every weekend trip was filled with High school friends, college students,

> student nurses, and military, mostly Sailors and Marines. They were always

> a

> very orderly group gathered in the club car just having fun. As I remember

> the trains stopped from Roanoke to Christiansburg, Radford, Narrows, and

> then to Bluefield. It was such a perfect ride, enjoying not only everyone's

> company, but over time most of us became good friends. The train left

> Bluefield around 5 o'clock in the afternoon and arrived in Norfolk just

> past

> Mid night. Trains 3 & 4 were a good ride also, but 15 & 16 were the mail

> trains slow and to be avoided.

>

> Gene Arnold

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> From: NW Mailing List

> To: 'NW Mailing List'

> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:41 PM

> Subject: RE: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon

>

>

> Thank you, Jim, for setting the record straight regarding the Powhatan

> Arrow's stops. I now consider myself properly informed! That's one of the

> things I enjoy most about the discussions of this group.

>

>

>

> How fortunate you were to have the opportunity to ride the N&W back and

> forth during your college days. I was just an infant when N&W ceded its

> remaining passenger operations to Amtrak, so I could only fantasize about

> riding the N&W from Norfolk to Blacksburg when I was a student at Tech.

>

>

>

> I'm not sure where I got the notion that the Arrow stopped only at Roanoke

> between Norfolk and Cincinnati. Perhaps I was getting facts confused with

> Roanoke being where the J's on point were changed out for service. There

> was some really good discussion on that topic on this list a few weeks ago.

>

>

>

> If you don't mind sharing further, what were the stops of the Powhatan

> Arrow between Roanoke and Cincinnati? [Bluefield (apparently)

> .Williamson?

> .Portsmouth?]

>

>

>

> Thanks again,

>

>

>

> -David Rice

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org

> [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List

> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:21 AM

> To: NW Mailing List

> Subject: Re: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Well, no. The Powhatan Arrow stopped in Farmville (as did all other

> passenger trains). I know, because I used to ride it from Bluefield when

> going back to college at Hampden-Sydney. The only other possibility might

> have been troop trains, as they would have no need to stop at Farmville.

> However, it becomes a matter of traffic density, so they probably would

> have

> been routed through Farmville as well.

>

>

>

> As for intermediate stops between Norfok and Roanoke, the Powhatan Arrow

> also stopped at Petersburg and Lynchburg.

>

>

>

> Jim Nichols

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

> Jim -

>

>

>

> There's about a mile of thick, thick swamp separating the N&W line from

> the VGN and SAL lines in the vicinity of Algren; there's absolutely no way

> to see the N&W from the VGN other along there.

>

>

>

> I would be interested to know if there were any instances of N&W passenger

> trains bypassing Farmville on the belt line. I believe, as you indicate,

> that passenger traffic was typically routed over the old "High Bridge" line

> through Farmville, and the belt line, with its more favorable grades was

> used mainly for heavier tonnage. Nevertheless, since the Powhatan Arrow

> did

> not make any intermediate stops between Norfolk and Roanoke, I would

> suppose

> routing it over the belt line around Farmville would not pose a problem for

> passengers.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> What was the Powhatan Arrow doing there? It ran on the old main line

> through Farmville. Jim Nichols

>

>

>

>

>

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