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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:56:03 -0500
Subject: K-1s
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J's also worked mainline locals 23 and 24 which operated from Roanoke west to Williamson, and I think to Portsmouth.

--Rick Morrison
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  Subject: Re: K-1s


  Yep.  On Bristol locals 9 and 10 after no longer needed for Columbus District 77 and 78.

  EdKing


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        I would also like to know if any Js did local passenger duty? tony

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          From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
          Subject: Re: K-1s
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          Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:21 PM


                ok I am thinking of taking a Bachmann 4-8-2 and rebuilding it into a K-1. I already have a heavy and hoping to try and streamline it. I also have another question concerning the K-2s skyline where was the whistle check valve pops and low water alarm placed and also were the bells on the Js and K-2s mounted on the pilot deck? again thanks. tony 

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                  From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
                  Subject: Re: K-1s
                  To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
                  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:02 PM


                  The K1's was similar in engine weight to the USRA heavy 4-8-2 - K1 353,000 lbs; stock USRA heavy 4-8-2 - 352,000 lbs.  N&W K2/K2a which were based on the USRA heavy, were slightly over 359,000 lbs.

                  Dave Stephenson

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                  > From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
                  > Subject: K-1s
                  > To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
                  > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 11:24 AM

                  > were K-1s a sort of version of a light or heavy mountain?
                  tony putnam



                        
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 08:44:49 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:44:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Model RR Open House
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Once again Jim Brewer's home layout will be open for tours.

Sadly I have not been there in years and now living in Florida I do not think that I will make it this year.

However I can encourage everyone who can to go see this extremely well done miniature pike.  Very accurately depicting the Shenandoah line done to some very minute details.

Tom Salmon



>As has been my custom for the past several years, I will have an open house of my model railroad following the Timonium, MD show on Saturday, February 6, 2010 from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. 


From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 11:56:30 2010
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:56:30 -0500
Subject: Very bright sight
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After the snowfall, Abingdon has been treated to several days of very clear,
cold weather. The caboose at Depot Square is a sight almost too intense for
the eyes.

Mike Pierry, Jr.
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 13:24:33 2010
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:24:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Boyce passenger service
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Boyce passenger service
Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
To: f_scheer at yahoo.com

Hi Frank
 
I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?
 
Thanks,
Cynthia Burton
cburton at winchesterstar.com
The Winchester Star


February 1, 2010

Hello, Cynthia:

I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962.  I'll inquire to see if someone is aware of the specific date.  The agent at Boyce was disccontinued in 1958.

Good afternoon,

Frank Scheer
f_scheer at yahoo.com




From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 13:56:59 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:56:59 EST
Subject: Very bright sight
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I believe the word is... Intense!
 
 
In a message dated 2/1/2010 1:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

After  the snowfall, Abingdon has been treated to several days of very 
clear, cold  weather. The caboose at Depot Square is a sight almost too intense 
for the  eyes.  


Mike Pierry,  Jr.


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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 13:22:40 2010
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:22:40 -0500
Subject: More snow shots
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Nathan,

    Ah, the 7D must be full frame like the 5D! Thanks for the tip!!

Walt


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From: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: More snow shots


> Walt,
> Just remember that if you have any EF-S lenses they won't work on the 7D 
> ;-) A friend of mine made that mistake.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Simmons
> trainman51 at gmail.com
> http://www.t-51.org
> KI4MSK
> 
> 
> 
> NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Nathan,
>>
>>     Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a 
>> 50D for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>>
>> Walt
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>
>>> Walt,
>>>
>>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I got 
>>> it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Simmons
>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>> KI4MSK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>> Nathan,
>>>>
>>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays 
>>>>> album:
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>>> KI4MSK
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 15:03:46 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:03:46 -0500
Subject: Norfolk Southern History
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References: <4B620735.7060904@vt.edu> <CD90D577407743B387CEA0E29FDBDCBD@susan>
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Amen !

Ed Painter  Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR



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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern History

Well said Jeff.

Regards,

Todd Arnett

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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:39 AM
To: NW Mailing List
Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern History

Mr. Flummer,

You say "To speculate on the tort responsibility of  Norfolk Southern from 
damage inflicted upon an empty train of coaches, at night, in a railroad 
yard, is pure fantasy."

To me, your statement only enforces NS's position. How many times have you 
heard an official say "what if"? And they will not budge from their 
argument. "What if the passenger train had been full? What if there was a 
hazmat involved?" No amount of argument, especially using "common sense", is

going to change their mind. And the fact that an employee violated a rule, 
intentionally, or not, just proves their point that accidents happen, 
anytime, anyplace.

For better, or worse, the railroad, in this case Norfolk Southern (and David

Goode) own the ball. They also make the rules, and they own the ball field. 
So, guess who gets to make the decisions? I'm not cutting Mr. Goode any 
slack, but, if he doesn't appreciate the history of his company enough to 
stick his neck out for it, it's still his call. And if he's not a "fan" (of 
steam, history, or whatever), it's our loss. He could care less. Our 
happiness, or attitude, isn't his responsibility. That's right, bottom line.

I didn't like the decision any more than any other steam fan, but, 
unfortunately, Mr. Goode didn't call and ask for my opinion.

The first gentleman to broach this subject said something like "it's a shame

that railroads are run like businesses". Well, excuse me; if the railroads 
hadn't been operated as businesses for the past 150 years, I guess we would 
all be out chasing, photographing and trying to run excursions on canal 
barges! Because there wouldn't be any railroads.

The railroads are not in business to please the public, nor to grant us our 
every whim. Just be thankful for every opportunity to see, ride and 
photograph any passenger train, steam or otherwise. Be grateful for every 
significant building saved, every tunnel not butchered, every piece of 
motive power preserved. NS has done much toward preserving railroad history,

as mentioned by others here. But we are certainly not going to get all we 
want. And, it's a futile exercise to try to figure out their motives.

As the old folks say, "when you're given lemons, make lemonade".

Jeff Sanders

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Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern History


> Mr. Shell, I certainly respect your inside knowledge of the decision to 
> end the Norfolk Southern Steam Program. However, I must clarify that the "

> derailment of 1994" was actually caused by a train that was mistakenly 
> shoving on the same track occupied by the excursion coaches. A track that 
> was clearly closed by railroad rule book standards. A track that was 
> REQUIRED to be protected against any movement by an employee. Norfolk 
> Southern Operating Rule number 508. "When directing a move by radio 
> communication, person directing the move, after establishing 
> identification, will give engineer direction of move and distance seen to 
> be clear. When one-half the last distance received has been covered, 
> engineer will stop the move unless he is receiving additional signal from 
> person directing move. Exception: Commencing five car lengths before 
> coupling or stop is to be made, person directing move will call out 
> distances in car lengths, as: "five cars;" "four cars;" "three cars;" etc.

> after acknowledging "five cars," engineer will not be required to further 
> acknowledge countdown if doing so would interfere with safe operation. 
> During this countdown, engineer will stop the move immediately after 
> moving one car length unless he is receiving additional signal from person

> directing move." The damage inflicted upon the excursion coaches was 
> simply caused by  disregard for the rules by a careless employee. To 
> speculate on the tort responsibility of  Norfolk Southern from  damage 
> inflicted upon an empty train of coaches, at night, in a railroad yard, is

> pure fantasy. It seems that very few want to believe that Mr. Goode could 
> have been so cold as to end the Steam Program for no visible reason, so 
> the apologists create many different reasons, liability being one; the 
> story about the school children running across the track to board 611's 
> train in Apomattox, for instance. Isn't it strange that Mr. Robert Claytor

> was able to operate the Steam Program so sucessfully, while facing these 
> same concerns. Isn't it strange that Union Pacific continues their 
> excursions many years after 1994. As I heard more than one person say, in 
> 1994, after the end of the NS Steam Program was announced, "They waited 
> untill Bob Claytor was in the ground, before they ended it." Look to Mr. 
> Goode for the reasons it ended. Look to the Board members of that year. 
> Look to the profit and loss sheets. Remember the end of steam on the N&W, 
> so impatiently, and wastefully implemented by Stuart Saunders. It wasn't 
> fear of lawsuits that brought an end to the NS Steam Program, it was 
> greed. Also, to those of you who continually call for Norfolk Southern to 
> pull 611 from the museum, you can forget it. Not in this or any other 
> lifetime. I invite you to do as I, and please contribute to the 
> maintenance and upkeep of 611, and 1218, on a regular basis. Thank You, 
> Jim Flummer, former 611, and 1218 locomotive engineer.
>
>> I have to take exception to this comment. Norfolk Southern not running 
>> steam has nothing to do with whether or not they are interested in 
>> history. Norfolk Southern quit running steam excursions due to liability.

>> I have heard this first hand from top NS management at the time. I was 
>> involved in some meetings with NS to preserve the steam program. After 
>> the derailment/accident in Lynchburg, VA in 1994 they realized that if 
>> that train had been full of school kids there would not be enough money 
>> to cover all of those blood sucking lawsuits that would follow. Blood 
>> sucking is my description, not NS's. I believe in compensation after an 
>> accident but these settlements these days are outrageous.
>>
>> Many of my dealings with Norfolk Southern show me that they are 
>> interested in history. They often support our historic organizations. The

>> reason they often tear down unused structures is to avoid property taxes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard D. Shell
>> Troutville, VA
>>
>> In a message dated 1/27/2010 1:38:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
>>
>>     It's the same reason why NS sees absolutely no
>>     reason to operate steam locomotives,
>
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 15:51:59 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:51:59 -0500
Subject: Boyce passenger service
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May 19, 1962 was the last run of trains 1 & 2 which would have served Boyce. 
The trains continued to run for about another year but only between Roanoke 
and Waynesboro.

--Rick Morrison

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To: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Boyce passenger service


> Boyce passenger service
> Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
> From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
> To: f_scheer at yahoo.com
>
> Hi Frank
>
> I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?
>
> Thanks,
> Cynthia Burton
> cburton at winchesterstar.com
> The Winchester Star
>
>
> February 1, 2010
>
> Hello, Cynthia:
>
> I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962.  I'll inquire to see if 
> someone is aware of the specific date.  The agent at Boyce was 
> disccontinued in 1958.
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> Frank Scheer
> f_scheer at yahoo.com
>
>
>
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 16:00:27 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:00:27 -0600
Subject: Boyce passenger service
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Message-ID: <EKEBLGDIIMBIBLOFFKIFCEIOCKAA.mycooper@comcast.net>

Frank,

	Boyce ceased to be a passenger stop with the discontinuance of Trains
#13/14 on April 11, 1957. After this time passengers could still board #1/2
by using Berryville until that train was discontinued over the Hagerstown
District.

Maso Cooper



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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:25 PM
To: Cynthia Burton
Subject: Boyce passenger service


Boyce passenger service
Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
To: f_scheer at yahoo.com

Hi Frank

I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?

Thanks,
Cynthia Burton
cburton at winchesterstar.com
The Winchester Star


February 1, 2010

Hello, Cynthia:

I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962.  I'll inquire to see if
someone is aware of the specific date.  The agent at Boyce was disccontinued
in 1958.

Good afternoon,

Frank Scheer
f_scheer at yahoo.com



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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 14:57:38 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:57:38 -0500
Subject: Bluefield WV Yard & Roundhouse
Message-ID: <2FA274D97973FF469EFC129B2992CB1B01A7DDCE0A7A@TKAHD-EXCL.ah.noram.tkse.group>

I'm looking for anyone who might have information about the yard and roundhouse in Bluefield WV.  I am looking at building a condensed version of the yard and a HO scale model of the full Roundhouse and out buildings to be the centerpiece of my new model railroad.  Any information you might have about Bluefield WV would be of great help.

Thanks in advance.
Feel free to e-mail me directly.


Tim Briney
Information Technologies Manager
ThyssenKrupp System Engineering, Inc.
tim.briney at thyssenkrupp.com<mailto:tim.briney at thyssenkrupp.com>

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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 16:42:28 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:42:28 -0500
Subject: TRUE?
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I find this story hard to believe, even if it did come over the internet ().

 


 

Good news: It was a normal day in Sharon Springs, KS, when a Union Pacific crew boarded a loaded coal train for the long trek to Salina. 

The Bad news: Just a few miles into the trip a wheel bearing became overheated and melted, letting a metal support drop down and grind on the rail, creating white hot molten metal droppings spewing down to the rail. 

The Good news: A very alert crew noticed smoke about halfway back in the train and immediately stopped the train in compliance with the rules. 

The Bad news: The train stopped with the hot wheel over a wooden bridge with creosote ties and trusses. 

The crew tried to explain to higher-ups but were instructed not to move the train! 


They were instructed ?The Rules? prohibit moving the train when a part is defective! 



  






















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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:53:47 -0500
Subject: Boyce passenger service clarification/s
Message-ID: <540e48701002011353v4d619a22s74ee023174e95a67@mail.gmail.com>

As a clarification, please for Boyce and other stations as well. The
employee timetable still shows Boyce as a passenger stop in October
1958 and does NOT show the location in the next ETT of April 1959. The
agent retired effective January 1,1959. This says to my research that
the depot was still open and a passenger station at that earlier of
the 2 dates and not at the latter.

Going thru the Winchester Star has not brought forth results of
exactly when the N&W closed the station but that 6 month window would
seem to be the range. I have been thru the Winchester Star looking for
a closure notice. Frank has been thru the Clarke County Courier and
found nothing there either plus Frank tried the State Corporation
Commission records for anything and couldn't find any help there.

I have included all group conversations leading up to these
observations as part of this "information tree" for any assistance.

Are Frank & I mis-reading the ETT, for it specifically lists Boyce as
a station in the October 1958 one and not the other?? In addition, the
agent, L.C. Murray I think it was, is also listed in the N&W's station
listing booklet of October 1958. I have copies of all the documents
specifically referenced here.

After that the flag stop status is understandable but the station was
obviously no longer open.

Bob Cohen


Boyce passenger service
> Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
> From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
> To: f_scheer at yahoo.com
>
> Hi Frank
>
> I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?
>
> Thanks,
> Cynthia Burton
> cburton at winchesterstar.com
> The Winchester Star
>
>
> February 1, 2010
>
> Hello, Cynthia:
>
> I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962. ?I'll inquire to see if someone is aware of the specific date. ?The agent at Boyce was disccontinued in 1958.
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> Frank Scheer
> f_scheer at yahoo.com

> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:00:27 -0600
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: Boyce passenger service
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Message-ID: <EKEBLGDIIMBIBLOFFKIFCEIOCKAA.mycooper at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; ? ? ? charset="us-ascii"
>
> Frank,
>
> ? ? ? ?Boyce ceased to be a passenger stop with the discontinuance of Trains
> #13/14 on April 11, 1957. After this time passengers could still board #1/2
> by using Berryville until that train was discontinued over the Hagerstown
> District.
>
> Maso Cooper

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org]On Behalf Of NW Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:25 PM
> To: Cynthia Burton
> Subject: Boyce passenger service
>
> Boyce passenger service
> Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
> From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
> To: f_scheer at yahoo.com
>
> Hi Frank
>
> I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?
>
> Thanks,
> Cynthia Burton
> cburton at winchesterstar.com
> The Winchester Star
>
> February 1, 2010
>
> Hello, Cynthia:
>
> I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962. ?I'll inquire to see if
> someone is aware of the specific date. ?The agent at Boyce was disccontinued
> in 1958.
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> Frank Scheer
> f_scheer at yahoo.com

> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:51:59 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Boyce passenger service
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Message-ID: <4C33BD3808F44017B5CF7A73FC63DB1A at DESKTOP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> ? ? ? ?reply-type=original
>
> May 19, 1962 was the last run of trains 1 & 2 which would have served Boyce.
> The trains continued to run for about another year but only between Roanoke
> and Waynesboro.
>
> --Rick Morrison
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:24 PM
> Subject: Boyce passenger service
>
>> Boyce passenger service
>> Monday, February 1, 2010 1:17 PM
>> From: "Cynthia Burton" <cburton at winchesterstar.com>
>> To: f_scheer at yahoo.com
>>
>> Hi Frank
>>
>> I was wondering if you knew when passenger rail service stopped in Boyce?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cynthia Burton
>> cburton at winchesterstar.com
>> The Winchester Star
>>
>> February 1, 2010
>>
>> Hello, Cynthia:
>>
>> I believe it was a local passenger train in 1962. ?I'll inquire to see if
>> someone is aware of the specific date. The agent at Boyce was
>> disccontinued in 1958.
>>
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> Frank Scheer
>> f_scheer at yahoo.com

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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:03:01 -0500
Subject: K-1s
References: <mailman.5.1265043607.71846.nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org>
Message-ID: <003701caa38a$5318d0b0$e430fea9@lmnewton>

After the 611, 612 and 613 were built in 1950, Class J locomotives were used 
on local trains 9 and 10 between Monroe, Roanoke and Bristol, as well as 
mainline locals 23 and 24 between Roanoke and Williamson.

Louis Newton
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:07:26 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: More snow shots
> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Nathan,
>
> Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a 50D
> for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>
> Walt
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>
>> Walt,
>>
>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I
>> got it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Simmons
>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>> http://www.t-51.org
>> KI4MSK
>>
>>
>>
>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>> album:
>>>>
>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>
>>>> *Nathan
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>> KI4MSK
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:36:18 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: More snow shots
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> Walt,
> Just remember that if you have any EF-S lenses they won't work on the 7D
> ;-) A friend of mine made that mistake.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Simmons
> trainman51 at gmail.com
> http://www.t-51.org
> KI4MSK
>
>
>
> NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Nathan,
>>
>>     Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a
>> 50D for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>>
>> Walt
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>
>>> Walt,
>>>
>>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I got
>>> it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Simmons
>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>> KI4MSK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>> Nathan,
>>>>
>>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>>> album:
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>>> KI4MSK
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:56:03 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: K-1s
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Message-ID: <86962874D9AA4D08972D57D3C2852E9E at DESKTOP>
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> J's also worked mainline locals 23 and 24 which operated from Roanoke west 
> to Williamson, and I think to Portsmouth.
>
> --Rick Morrison
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: NW Mailing List
>  To: NW Mailing List
>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:24 PM
>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>
>
>  Yep.  On Bristol locals 9 and 10 after no longer needed for Columbus 
> District 77 and 78.
>
>  EdKing
>
>
>  From: NW Mailing List
>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:11 PM
>  To: NW Mailing List
>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>
>
>        I would also like to know if any Js did local passenger duty? tony
>
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> wrote:
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>
>          From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>          Subject: Re: K-1s
>          To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>          Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:21 PM
>
>
>                ok I am thinking of taking a Bachmann 4-8-2 and rebuilding 
> it into a K-1. I already have a heavy and hoping to try and streamline it. 
> I also have another question concerning the K-2s skyline where was the 
> whistle check valve pops and low water alarm placed and also were the 
> bells on the Js and K-2s mounted on the pilot deck? again thanks. tony
>
>                --- On Sun, 1/31/10, NW Mailing List 
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>                  From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>                  Subject: Re: K-1s
>                  To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>                  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:02 PM
>
>
>                  The K1's was similar in engine weight to the USRA heavy 
> 4-8-2 - K1 353,000 lbs; stock USRA heavy 4-8-2 - 352,000 lbs.  N&W K2/K2a 
> which were based on the USRA heavy, were slightly over 359,000 lbs.
>
>                  Dave Stephenson
>
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>                  > From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>                  > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 11:24 AM
>
>                  > were K-1s a sort of version of a light or heavy 
> mountain?
>                  tony putnam
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> Subject: Re: Model RR Open House
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> Once again Jim Brewer's home layout will be open for tours.
>
> Sadly I have not been there in years and now living in Florida I do not 
> think that I will make it this year.
>
> However I can encourage everyone who can to go see this extremely well 
> done miniature pike.  Very accurately depicting the Shenandoah line done 
> to some very minute details.
>
> Tom Salmon
>
>
>
>>As has been my custom for the past several years, I will have an open 
>>house of my model railroad following the Timonium, MD show on Saturday, 
>>February 6, 2010 from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.
>
>
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:03:41 -0500
Subject: TRUE?
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References: <BLU146-W161CF603715825FA23261DCB580@phx.gbl>
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It is true I remember the news story when it happened.

Nathan

Nathan Simmons
trainman51 at gmail.com
http://www.t-51.org
KI4MSK



NW Mailing List wrote:
> I find this story hard to believe, even if it did come over the 
> internet ().
>  
>
>  
> *Good news: It was a normal day in **Sharon** **Springs**, KS, when a 
> Union Pacific crew boarded a loaded coal train for the long trek to 
> **Salina**.*
> *
> The Bad news: Just a few miles into the trip a wheel bearing became 
> overheated and melted, letting a metal support drop down and grind on 
> the rail, creating white hot molten metal droppings spewing down to 
> the rail.*
> *
> The Good news: A very alert crew noticed smoke about halfway back in 
> the train and immediately stopped the train in compliance with the 
> rules.*
> *
> The Bad news: The train stopped with the hot wheel over a wooden 
> bridge with creosote ties and trusses.*
> *
> The crew tried to explain to higher-ups but were instructed not to 
> move the train!*
>
>
> *They were instructed ?The Rules? prohibit moving the train when a 
> part is defective! *
>
>
> *
> * 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You just can't fix stupid.
>
> RULES IS RULES!
>
> *(Don't let common sense get in the way of a good disaster!) *
>
>
> *Ed Svitil*
>
>
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Feb  1 22:59:25 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:59:25 -0500
Subject: TRUE?
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	<4B6787FD.5000705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BCC9E8557884D72A14B7A0E0793C336@DellVostro>

You can go to the following for photos:

http://www.arizonarails.com/bad_day.html

Gordon Hamilton

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It is true I remember the news story when it happened.

Nathan

Nathan Simmons
trainman51 at gmail.com
http://www.t-51.org
KI4MSK



NW Mailing List wrote:
> I find this story hard to believe, even if it did come over the
> internet ().
>
>
>
> *Good news: It was a normal day in **Sharon** **Springs**, KS, when a
> Union Pacific crew boarded a loaded coal train for the long trek to
> **Salina**.*
> *
> The Bad news: Just a few miles into the trip a wheel bearing became
> overheated and melted, letting a metal support drop down and grind on
> the rail, creating white hot molten metal droppings spewing down to
> the rail.*
> *
> The Good news: A very alert crew noticed smoke about halfway back in
> the train and immediately stopped the train in compliance with the
> rules.*
> *
> The Bad news: The train stopped with the hot wheel over a wooden
> bridge with creosote ties and trusses.*
> *
> The crew tried to explain to higher-ups but were instructed not to
> move the train!*
>
>
> *They were instructed ?The Rules? prohibit moving the train when a
> part is defective! *
>
>
> *
> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You just can't fix stupid.
>
> RULES IS RULES!
>
> *(Don't let common sense get in the way of a good disaster!) *
>
>
> *Ed Svitil*
>
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:26:04 -0500
Subject: K-1s
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Louis,

I was not aware that 9 and 10 ran between Roanoke and Monroe. Do you recall about what year they ceased to do so.  I do recall from old timetables that a mail train with the triple digit number was shown on the Southern timetable (around 1950, I believe).  Was this the same as 9 and 10 on the N&W?

Thanks for your continuing insight on so many questions.

     Ray Smoot

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After the 611, 612 and 613 were built in 1950, Class J locomotives were used 
on local trains 9 and 10 between Monroe, Roanoke and Bristol, as well as 
mainline locals 23 and 24 between Roanoke and Williamson.

Louis Newton
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:07:26 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: More snow shots
> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Nathan,
>
> Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a 50D
> for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>
> Walt
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>
>> Walt,
>>
>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I
>> got it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Simmons
>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>> http://www.t-51.org
>> KI4MSK
>>
>>
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>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>> album:
>>>>
>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>
>>>> *Nathan
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Nathan Simmons
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>>>> KI4MSK
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:36:18 -0500
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> Walt,
> Just remember that if you have any EF-S lenses they won't work on the 7D
> ;-) A friend of mine made that mistake.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Simmons
> trainman51 at gmail.com
> http://www.t-51.org
> KI4MSK
>
>
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> NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Nathan,
>>
>>     Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a
>> 50D for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>>
>> Walt
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>
>>> Walt,
>>>
>>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I got
>>> it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Simmons
>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>> KI4MSK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>> Nathan,
>>>>
>>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>>> album:
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>>> KI4MSK
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:56:03 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: K-1s
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> J's also worked mainline locals 23 and 24 which operated from Roanoke west 
> to Williamson, and I think to Portsmouth.
>
> --Rick Morrison
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>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:24 PM
>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>
>
>  Yep.  On Bristol locals 9 and 10 after no longer needed for Columbus 
> District 77 and 78.
>
>  EdKing
>
>
>  From: NW Mailing List
>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:11 PM
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>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>
>
>        I would also like to know if any Js did local passenger duty? tony
>
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> wrote:
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>          From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>          Subject: Re: K-1s
>          To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>          Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:21 PM
>
>
>                ok I am thinking of taking a Bachmann 4-8-2 and rebuilding 
> it into a K-1. I already have a heavy and hoping to try and streamline it. 
> I also have another question concerning the K-2s skyline where was the 
> whistle check valve pops and low water alarm placed and also were the 
> bells on the Js and K-2s mounted on the pilot deck? again thanks. tony
>
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> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>                  From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>                  Subject: Re: K-1s
>                  To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>                  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:02 PM
>
>
>                  The K1's was similar in engine weight to the USRA heavy 
> 4-8-2 - K1 353,000 lbs; stock USRA heavy 4-8-2 - 352,000 lbs.  N&W K2/K2a 
> which were based on the USRA heavy, were slightly over 359,000 lbs.
>
>                  Dave Stephenson
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>                  > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 11:24 AM
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>                  > were K-1s a sort of version of a light or heavy 
> mountain?
>                  tony putnam
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> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:44:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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> Once again Jim Brewer's home layout will be open for tours.
>
> Sadly I have not been there in years and now living in Florida I do not 
> think that I will make it this year.
>
> However I can encourage everyone who can to go see this extremely well 
> done miniature pike.  Very accurately depicting the Shenandoah line done 
> to some very minute details.
>
> Tom Salmon
>
>
>
>>As has been my custom for the past several years, I will have an open 
>>house of my model railroad following the Timonium, MD show on Saturday, 
>>February 6, 2010 from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:29:27 -0500
Subject: TRUE?
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According to snopes.com this is a true story from 2002
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/trainfire.asp

 

R.D. Williams

 

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Subject: TRUE?

 

I find this story hard to believe, even if it did come over the internet (
<http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif> ).
 

 
Good news: It was a normal day in Sharon Springs, KS, when a Union Pacific
crew boarded a loaded coal train for the long trek to Salina. 

The Bad news: Just a few miles into the trip a wheel bearing became
overheated and melted, letting a metal support drop down and grind on the
rail, creating white hot molten metal droppings spewing down to the rail. 

The Good news: A very alert crew noticed smoke about halfway back in the
train and immediately stopped the train in compliance with the rules. 

The Bad news: The train stopped with the hot wheel over a wooden bridge with
creosote ties and trusses. 

The crew tried to explain to higher-ups but were instructed not to move the
train! 


They were instructed "The Rules" prohibit moving the train when a part is
defective! 



  












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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:15:02 -0500
Subject: K-1s
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Schedules for Southern Ry. Nos. 141 and 142 were shown in ETT's but not in 
the public timetables.  N&W Nos. 9 and 10 were extensions of those trains.

I don't have all the appropriate timetables at hand, but as nearly as I can 
determine, N&W Nos. 9 and 10 were discontinued between Monroe/Lynchburg and 
Roanoke around 1954.  They continued running between Roanoke and Bristol 
until around the end of steam passenger operations on the Bristol Line in 
1957.

Mainline locals Nos. 23 and 24 were discontinued around  July 1955.

Louis Newton
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> You can go to the following for photos:
>
> http://www.arizonarails.com/bad_day.html
>
> Gordon Hamilton
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>
> It is true I remember the news story when it happened.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Simmons
> trainman51 at gmail.com
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> KI4MSK
>
>
>
> NW Mailing List wrote:
>> I find this story hard to believe, even if it did come over the
>> internet ().
>>
>>
>>
>> *Good news: It was a normal day in **Sharon** **Springs**, KS, when a
>> Union Pacific crew boarded a loaded coal train for the long trek to
>> **Salina**.*
>> *
>> The Bad news: Just a few miles into the trip a wheel bearing became
>> overheated and melted, letting a metal support drop down and grind on
>> the rail, creating white hot molten metal droppings spewing down to
>> the rail.*
>> *
>> The Good news: A very alert crew noticed smoke about halfway back in
>> the train and immediately stopped the train in compliance with the
>> rules.*
>> *
>> The Bad news: The train stopped with the hot wheel over a wooden
>> bridge with creosote ties and trusses.*
>> *
>> The crew tried to explain to higher-ups but were instructed not to
>> move the train!*
>>
>>
>> *They were instructed ?The Rules? prohibit moving the train when a
>> part is defective! *
>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  You just can't fix stupid.
>>
>> RULES IS RULES!
>>
>> *(Don't let common sense get in the way of a good disaster!) *
>>
>>
>> *Ed Svitil*
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:26:04 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: K-1s
> To: 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Louis,
>
> I was not aware that 9 and 10 ran between Roanoke and Monroe. Do you 
> recall about what year they ceased to do so.  I do recall from old 
> timetables that a mail train with the triple digit number was shown on the 
> Southern timetable (around 1950, I believe).  Was this the same as 9 and 
> 10 on the N&W?
>
> Thanks for your continuing insight on so many questions.
>
>     Ray Smoot
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: K-1s
>
> After the 611, 612 and 613 were built in 1950, Class J locomotives were 
> used
> on local trains 9 and 10 between Monroe, Roanoke and Bristol, as well as
> mainline locals 23 and 24 between Roanoke and Williamson.
>
> Louis Newton
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>> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:07:26 -0500
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
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>> Nathan,
>>
>> Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a 50D
>> for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>>
>> Walt
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>
>>> Walt,
>>>
>>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I
>>> got it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Simmons
>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>> KI4MSK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>> Nathan,
>>>>
>>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>>> album:
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>>> KI4MSK
>>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:36:18 -0500
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: More snow shots
>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>> Walt,
>> Just remember that if you have any EF-S lenses they won't work on the 7D
>> ;-) A friend of mine made that mistake.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Simmons
>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>> http://www.t-51.org
>> KI4MSK
>>
>>
>>
>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>>     Thanks, I have a 10D and a 30D and was thinking about getting a
>>> 50D for the Live View, but then the 7D came out, and now I want one!!!
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>
>>>> Walt,
>>>>
>>>> I use a Canon EOS 50D, I've had I for about three weeks. Before I got
>>>> it I used a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT which only went to 1600 ISO
>>>>
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>> KI4MSK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>>
>>>>>    Great shooting!! What have you got that will go to 12800 ISO??
>>>>>
>>>>> Walt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:36 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this link works, these shots were just added to yesterdays
>>>>>> album:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *http://tinyurl.com/wns01-31-2010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Nathan Simmons
>>>>>> trainman51 at gmail.com
>>>>>> http://www.t-51.org
>>>>>> KI4MSK
>>>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:56:03 -0500
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: K-1s
>> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>> J's also worked mainline locals 23 and 24 which operated from Roanoke 
>> west
>> to Williamson, and I think to Portsmouth.
>>
>> --Rick Morrison
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: NW Mailing List
>>  To: NW Mailing List
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:24 PM
>>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>>
>>
>>  Yep.  On Bristol locals 9 and 10 after no longer needed for Columbus
>> District 77 and 78.
>>
>>  EdKing
>>
>>
>>  From: NW Mailing List
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:11 PM
>>  To: NW Mailing List
>>  Subject: Re: K-1s
>>
>>
>>        I would also like to know if any Js did local passenger duty? tony
>>
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>>          From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>          Subject: Re: K-1s
>>          To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>          Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:21 PM
>>
>>
>>                ok I am thinking of taking a Bachmann 4-8-2 and rebuilding
>> it into a K-1. I already have a heavy and hoping to try and streamline 
>> it.
>> I also have another question concerning the K-2s skyline where was the
>> whistle check valve pops and low water alarm placed and also were the
>> bells on the Js and K-2s mounted on the pilot deck? again thanks. tony
>>
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>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>                  From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>                  Subject: Re: K-1s
>>                  To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>                  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:02 PM
>>
>>
>>                  The K1's was similar in engine weight to the USRA heavy
>> 4-8-2 - K1 353,000 lbs; stock USRA heavy 4-8-2 - 352,000 lbs.  N&W K2/K2a
>> which were based on the USRA heavy, were slightly over 359,000 lbs.
>>
>>                  Dave Stephenson
>>
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>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>                  > From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>                  > Subject: K-1s
>>                  > To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>                  > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 11:24 AM
>>
>>                  > were K-1s a sort of version of a light or heavy
>> mountain?
>>                  tony putnam
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>> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:44:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: Model RR Open House
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>> Once again Jim Brewer's home layout will be open for tours.
>>
>> Sadly I have not been there in years and now living in Florida I do not
>> think that I will make it this year.
>>
>> However I can encourage everyone who can to go see this extremely well
>> done miniature pike.  Very accurately depicting the Shenandoah line done
>> to some very minute details.
>>
>> Tom Salmon
>>
>>
>>
>>>As has been my custom for the past several years, I will have an open
>>>house of my model railroad following the Timonium, MD show on Saturday,
>>>February 6, 2010 from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.
>>
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:53:59 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment
References: <E0766DC2D6314CE0A7FE6EA2F6DE8DB4@DellVostro>
Message-ID: <FB040A8844734CD09818671DCCA497FA@susan>

Gordon,

I have a list of the Pullman negative collection, which is located in the Smithsonian. There is a listing under "Private Cars" of "100, lot no. 3829, year 1911, neg. no. 13253", (followed by a notation under "owner" which says "Norfolk and Western (Johnson)".

According to Dec. 1985 records I have, the 100 became NS 7 "Pocahontas". Then, on a October 1988 list of cars sold since June 1982, the 100 is shown being sold on June 1, 1988 to Conrail for Mr. Sandborn.

I don't know it's Conrail number, or name, but would certainly like to know if it is still in service, now in it's 99th year.

Jeff Sanders 


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  To: 3N&W Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:43 AM
  Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment


  Bluefield Daily Telegraph
  August 11, 1910

  STEEL EQUIPMENT
  ------
  Norfolk and Western Fast Trains Must Come up to Pennsylvania Requirements
      Roanoke Times:  When the Hudson river tubes of the Pennsylvania are opened next month giving an all rail entrance into New York, a new order of things in construction of trains will have taken place.  After the formal opening no trains will be allowed to enter the tubes unless they are constructed of steel throughout and are hauled by electrically propelled engines.
      This will require new equipment for every train entering the metropolis.  For months the Pennsylvania and the Pullman company have been preparing for the new order and they are ready to run solid trains of steel coaches, baggage cars and Pullmans.
      The Norfolk and Western will enter New York through the tubes.  For the present but two trains will be constructed to meet the requirements of the Pennsylvania.  They are the Memphis special [sic] and the Washington and Chattanooga vestibule, commonly known as "41" and "42."  Over a year ago steel equipment was ordered for these trains and it is now ready and will be in use when the tubes are opened.
      L. E. Johnson, president of the Norfolk and Western, is having a steel private car built for use when traveling to New York.  It is to be one of the handsomest in the east, and a model for others.  It is only a matter of time when all of the private cars of the Norfolk and Western officials will be so constructed, as the tubes after piercing Manhattan island will continue under the East River and on to Boston and New England cities.
      Under the plans of the Pennsylvania the point of landing of the big ocean liners will be the end of Long Island, and from there passengers will be taken, without a change of cars, to any point, even so far as San Francisco.
  [N&W MP Dept. Data Book No. I from the 1950's shows Class XO Business Car No. 100 built 1911 at a cost of $38,162.55 by Pullman.  Could this have been the car mentioned above as being built for President L. E. Johnson (not President Lyndon Johnson--he came later!)?]
  ------
  Gordon Hamilton


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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:59:46 -0600
Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment
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NS got some business cars from Conrail when they took over. Could this have
been one of them? Surely there is a list somewhere! BTW, the car that went
to Conrail had been extensively rebuilt since 1910 - air conditioning,
revised floorplan, new welded sides, new roofline, new trucks. So the basic
frame is about all of the 99 year old car that would still exist.    Jim
Nichols

 

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[mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:54 PM
To: NW Mailing List
Subject: Re: N&W in 1910--New equipment

 

Gordon,

 

I have a list of the Pullman negative collection, which is located in the
Smithsonian. There is a listing under "Private Cars" of "100, lot no. 3829,
year 1911, neg. no. 13253", (followed by a notation under "owner" which says
"Norfolk and Western (Johnson)".

 

According to Dec. 1985 records I have, the 100 became NS 7 "Pocahontas".
Then, on a October 1988 list of cars sold since June 1982, the 100 is shown
being sold on June 1, 1988 to Conrail for Mr. Sandborn.

 

I don't know it's Conrail number, or name, but would certainly like to know
if it is still in service, now in it's 99th year.

 

Jeff Sanders 

 

 

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To: 3N <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> &W Mailing List 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:43 AM

Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment

 

Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 11, 1910

 

STEEL EQUIPMENT

------

Norfolk and Western Fast Trains Must Come up to Pennsylvania Requirements

    Roanoke Times:  When the Hudson river tubes of the Pennsylvania are
opened next month giving an all rail entrance into New York, a new order of
things in construction of trains will have taken place.  After the formal
opening no trains will be allowed to enter the tubes unless they are
constructed of steel throughout and are hauled by electrically propelled
engines.

    This will require new equipment for every train entering the metropolis.
For months the Pennsylvania and the Pullman company have been preparing for
the new order and they are ready to run solid trains of steel coaches,
baggage cars and Pullmans.

    The Norfolk and Western will enter New York through the tubes.  For the
present but two trains will be constructed to meet the requirements of the
Pennsylvania.  They are the Memphis special [sic] and the Washington and
Chattanooga vestibule, commonly known as "41" and "42."  Over a year ago
steel equipment was ordered for these trains and it is now ready and will be
in use when the tubes are opened.

    L. E. Johnson, president of the Norfolk and Western, is having a steel
private car built for use when traveling to New York.  It is to be one of
the handsomest in the east, and a model for others.  It is only a matter of
time when all of the private cars of the Norfolk and Western officials will
be so constructed, as the tubes after piercing Manhattan island will
continue under the East River and on to Boston and New England cities.

    Under the plans of the Pennsylvania the point of landing of the big
ocean liners will be the end of Long Island, and from there passengers will
be taken, without a change of cars, to any point, even so far as San
Francisco.

[N&W MP Dept. Data Book No. I from the 1950's shows Class XO Business Car
No. 100 built 1911 at a cost of $38,162.55 by Pullman.  Could this have been
the car mentioned above as being built for President L. E. Johnson (not
President Lyndon Johnson--he came later!)?]

------

Gordon Hamilton

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:32:38 -0500
Subject: Lynchburg operations in the mid 50s
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Can anyone help me with operating patterns in the mid 50s (before diesels and the beginning of passenger train cutbacks) between Forest and Phoebe?  Which trains, other than passenger to and from Norfolk, used the ML and which the Belt Line?  Which worked Island Yard?  Kinney?  Which trains/locals originated at Island?  Kinney?  Were there around the clock switch crews at Island?  Kinney?  Where and how was interchange with the C&O and SOU handled?  Where did the Bristol Line passenger trains leave/enter the SOU?

Were there manned interlockings at Forest, X, ND and Phoebe?  Any at Montvale/Kinney?  What type?  Any diagrams/track charts available?  Was there any double track on the Old Line through Island Yard?  Was any CTC in operation in the Lynchburg area?  Was the single track ABS?

Any details about the operations would be appreciated.  I can also be reached at gfish19 at verizon.net or 717-866-2229.  Thank you.

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:20:31 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment
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Jeff,

Thanks.  That is great information.

Gordon Hamilton
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:53 PM
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  Gordon,

  I have a list of the Pullman negative collection, which is located in the Smithsonian. There is a listing under "Private Cars" of "100, lot no. 3829, year 1911, neg. no. 13253", (followed by a notation under "owner" which says "Norfolk and Western (Johnson)".

  According to Dec. 1985 records I have, the 100 became NS 7 "Pocahontas". Then, on a October 1988 list of cars sold since June 1982, the 100 is shown being sold on June 1, 1988 to Conrail for Mr. Sandborn.

  I don't know it's Conrail number, or name, but would certainly like to know if it is still in service, now in it's 99th year.

  Jeff Sanders 


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    Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:43 AM
    Subject: N&W in 1910--New equipment


    Bluefield Daily Telegraph
    August 11, 1910

    STEEL EQUIPMENT
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    Norfolk and Western Fast Trains Must Come up to Pennsylvania Requirements
        Roanoke Times:  When the Hudson river tubes of the Pennsylvania are opened next month giving an all rail entrance into New York, a new order of things in construction of trains will have taken place.  After the formal opening no trains will be allowed to enter the tubes unless they are constructed of steel throughout and are hauled by electrically propelled engines.
        This will require new equipment for every train entering the metropolis.  For months the Pennsylvania and the Pullman company have been preparing for the new order and they are ready to run solid trains of steel coaches, baggage cars and Pullmans.
        The Norfolk and Western will enter New York through the tubes.  For the present but two trains will be constructed to meet the requirements of the Pennsylvania.  They are the Memphis special [sic] and the Washington and Chattanooga vestibule, commonly known as "41" and "42."  Over a year ago steel equipment was ordered for these trains and it is now ready and will be in use when the tubes are opened.
        L. E. Johnson, president of the Norfolk and Western, is having a steel private car built for use when traveling to New York.  It is to be one of the handsomest in the east, and a model for others.  It is only a matter of time when all of the private cars of the Norfolk and Western officials will be so constructed, as the tubes after piercing Manhattan island will continue under the East River and on to Boston and New England cities.
        Under the plans of the Pennsylvania the point of landing of the big ocean liners will be the end of Long Island, and from there passengers will be taken, without a change of cars, to any point, even so far as San Francisco.
    [N&W MP Dept. Data Book No. I from the 1950's shows Class XO Business Car No. 100 built 1911 at a cost of $38,162.55 by Pullman.  Could this have been the car mentioned above as being built for President L. E. Johnson (not President Lyndon Johnson--he came later!)?]
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    Gordon Hamilton


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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:28:19 -0500
Subject: Lynchburg operations in the mid 50s
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As a little bit of info.  I worked as a laborer in the shop in Durham, NC, the summers of 1952, '53 and '54.  The freight trains on the Durham line originated in Island Yard, Lynchburg, and the freight  engines (Y's on thru freights and Z's on locals) and passenger engines (K1's) on the Durham line were maintain at Island Yard, with only inspection and servicing in Durham.

Gordon Hamilton
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  Can anyone help me with operating patterns in the mid 50s (before diesels and the beginning of passenger train cutbacks) between Forest and Phoebe?  Which trains, other than passenger to and from Norfolk, used the ML and which the Belt Line?  Which worked Island Yard?  Kinney?  Which trains/locals originated at Island?  Kinney?  Were there around the clock switch crews at Island?  Kinney?  Where and how was interchange with the C&O and SOU handled?  Where did the Bristol Line passenger trains leave/enter the SOU?

  Were there manned interlockings at Forest, X, ND and Phoebe?  Any at Montvale/Kinney?  What type?  Any diagrams/track charts available?  Was there any double track on the Old Line through Island Yard?  Was any CTC in operation in the Lynchburg area?  Was the single track ABS?

  Any details about the operations would be appreciated.  I can also be reached at gfish19 at verizon.net or 717-866-2229.  Thank you.

  Glenn Fisher
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:36:23 -0500
Subject: [NWHSBoD] VMT Media Release--Public input sought to shape
	Museum'sfuture
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Should I presume this means the $1M NS offered to four Roanoke railroad activites, including NWHS, is now designated for one Roanoke activity - VMT?

Alex Schust
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  Subject: [NWHSBoD] VMT Media Release--Public input sought to shape Museum'sfuture


  For Immediate Release
  Roanoke, VA?February 2, 2010
  Contact: Fran Ferguson 540-342-5670 ext. 105 or fferguson at vmt.org


  Million dollar challenge offers a million reasons to seek opinion!

  Virginia Museum of Transportation invites public comments for charting its future
   

  Transportation?we use it every day. Rails and roads and landing strips have changed our history, our communities, and our culture. The Virginia Museum of Transportation uses its outstanding collection of rail equipment and galleries of cars, trucks, planes and other vehicles to tell the story of transportation in Virginia and the technological advances developed here. 

  Change is underway. Norfolk Southern Corporation has offered the Virginia Museum of Transportation a $1 million Challenge Match toward improved infrastructure and the development of new exhibits. Comments from the public are now being solicited as an important part of the Museum's planning process. 

  What can this Museum become? The public is invited to share comments, ideas, and suggestions at three upcoming sessions:
  ?         February 18: focus on the role of the railroads in Virginia's history and in its cultural and economic development 
  ?         February 23: focus on non-rail modes of transportation

  ?         March 2: focus on the Museum's contribution to the community, including tourism and education

  Each session will be held in the Museum's Conference Room, 7-9pm. RSVP: info at vmt.org. 
   

  In addition, a brief questionnaire is available online at the Museum's web site, www.vmt.org. Because 60% of the Museum's visitors are tourists, Virginia residents and non-residents alike are urged to complete this convenient survey.
   

  "The Virginia Museum of Transportation has a fantastic opportunity ahead of it to do a better job of sharing the wonderful stories of Virginia's transportation heritage with current and future generations," said executive director Beverly T. Fitzpatrick, Jr. "We are extremely grateful both to Norfolk Southern and to the public for the contribution of ideas and for the financial support necessary to bring the best of these ideas to fruition."
   

  The Museum's lead project consultant for this planning process is William L. Withuhn, Curator Emeritus at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History. He is widely considered the nation's leading transportation exhibits producer and is familiar with the Museum, its strengths, weaknesses, audiences, and great potential.
   

  About the Virginia Museum of Transportation

  Home to two of the most powerful steam locomotives in existence today?the Norfolk & Western Class A 1218 and the Class J 611?the Virginia Museum of Transportation regularly attracts visitors of all ages from across the U.S. and 45 foreign countries. The Museum is designated as the official transportation museum of the Commonwealth of Virginia, but receives no state support. First opened in 1963, the Museum is located in Roanoke's historic N&W Freight Station at 303 Norfolk Avenue SW, Roanoke, VA 24016. Open Monday-Saturday 10-5 and Sunday 1-5. 540/342.5670. 
   

  Web site: www.vmt.org

  Norfolk Southern Challenge Survey: www.surveymonkey.com/s/5G9VBDB

  E-mail news subscription: http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?m=1102633925803&p=oi 

  Find us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/VA.Museum.Transportation 

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:49 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Advice to the railroad
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 18, 1910

WILL EXPLOIT WEALTH OF THIS GREAT SECTION
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 Industrial Department of N. & W. Could Make Unique Exhibit
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MIGHT TELL STORY IN VIEWS AND STATISTICS
------
Marvelous Natural Resources of Richest Region Tapped by System Should be Set Forth in Convincing and Bulls-Eye Hitting Style
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SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR THOSE PREPARING EXHIBIT
------
    The Norfolk and Western industrial department expects to do considerable advertising at the Ohio Valley Exposition, and this being the case a few suggestions as to some things to advertise might not be out of place, inasmuch as it has been announced that F. H. Haume, the agricultural and industrial agent, is anxious to receive maps, pictures and descriptive matter of every locality from one end of the line to the other.
    The miles of excellent railroad sidings along the Norfolk and Western at Graham and Bluefield with a comprehensive map showing the location and number of coal mines in the field which have to be annually supplied with machinery and supplies of various kinds should easily give to visitors to the exposition the advantages to be gained by locating in this city.  A map of this kind has been made by the chamber of commerce committee.
    A number of views of the 2,000 coke ovens in the field together with a lecture on the amount of gas, ammonia, and coal annually wasted in them should prove the advisability of locating by-product ovens in or near this city where this enormous waste could be prevented and coke made here from which point it could be shipped away.
    The enormous deposits of limestone could be easily shown and in conjunction with these views, statistics of the immense quantity of cement used in the construction of various buildings and foundations in the coal field could be exhibited, proving that the market for the entire output of a large plant can be found within a radius of 200 miles of this city.
    The Graham furnace and the Bluestone Valley should by all means be shown and in connection with this views of the Potts Creek iron section together with a comprehensive study on freight rates on limestone, iron, coke and other ingredients used in the manufacture of pig iron, proving there is no region in the country outside of Birmingham where the various ingredients are found so close together for the manufacture of iron and steel and their products.
    The coal mines of the section taken together with the Bluestone should easily prove the value of this point as a cement center while the increasing demand for fuel products should be the greatest incentive towards investment in that line of business here.
    The forests and the many lumber mills should easily prove the value of the waste lumber and by-products which could be easily used in furniture factories which should be established in this region.
    It is generally admitted by the railroad and by the people that a coalfield trolley line would pay and is necessary.  If the industrial department of the Norfolk and Western would show views of the towns along the road in the Pocahontas field and give estimates of the population as well as a study of the life of the coalfield there is a good reason to believe that road could interest capital in a trolley line which could move the enormous population of this section from one point to another without making it necessary for every passenger train to be a jerkwater train.
    The salt fields of Mingo and Wayne counties could be exploited and an opportunity given to the people to see that Kanawha and Mason counties in this state are not the only counties in which large deposits of salt are found.
    The department might show some of the deposits of silica which show a percentage of as high as .23 in pure silica and taken in conjunction with views of the gas wells to be found in Wayne and Mingo counties there is good reason to believe that capital of the country could be interested in the manufacture of glass.
    The enormous deposits of ochre could be exploited with colored views and such views should be of great interest to the paint manufacturers of the country.
    If the industrial department of the Norfolk and Western wants to get real busy, all it has to do is to exploit a few of these resources found along its Pocahontas division while views showing how the people of this section are fed by the express companies would be of interest, especially in view of the fact that there are thousands of acres waiting to be utilized by the truck farmers of the country who are willing to plant something besides wheat and corn.
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Gordon Hamilton
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 05:31:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Steam draft gear
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Did the A's or Y's use cushioned draft gear on their pilots?  Given the amount of double heading / pushing these two classes did, it would seem it would have been beneficial. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, OH




      


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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:50:57 -0500
Subject: "Takin' Twenty with the Virginian Brethren" by Skip Salmon
Message-ID: <4B6AD0C1.2000406@vt.edu>

Last night I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with 13 of the Brethren 
and Friends of the Virginian Railway. The restaurant staff normally 
prepares tables for 12 of us ahead of time, so last night was an "overflow" 
event.

We discussed Norfolk Southern's 32% drop in profits for the fourth quarter 
of 2009. I compensated, by showing the Brethren NS's "newest politically 
correct report form #SS2010 'Hurt Feelings Report'". Contact me off line 
and I will sent you a copy.

Our own Miss Virginia was crowned Miss America last Saturday night and the 
Brethren talked of the event. Most did not see the one hour special about 
the judging and inside interviews, so I added to the conversation. It was 
stated that the women used a variety of "tricks" to enhance their 
appearance including double sided tape for pesky straps, convention glue to 
secure swim suits, hairspray to set makeup and my favorite: WD-40 to 
prevent their evening gowns from "clinging".

I reported to the Brethren the passing on January 30, of Walter Marshall 
"Dirty Face" Snead, Jr., age 86, VGN brakeman and conductor whose funeral 
is in Victoria today. Wis Sowder remembered calling him many times for 
work. He said that "Dirty Face" worked the local and because of the many 
stops for "less that a car load" shipping, there were sometimes three 
brakemen on his crew. Raymond East recalled being part of his crew on 
several road trips. Landon Gregory told the Brethren how he got his nick 
name. "Walter wore gloves all the time and because of handling a lot of 
freight and deliveries on the locals, the gloves would get pretty dirty. He 
would wipe his face and someone started calling him dirty face. Rufus 
Wingfield remembered Snead, and recalled that some called him "Mortimer" also.

Last week there was discussion about the Catawba Sanitarium relating to 
"consumption". I got an email from my good friend Jim Cosby who remembered 
seeing German POWs there as a child. "They were a healthy looking bunch (no 
shirts when outside in the sunshine)". I asked Gibby Davis if he remembered 
the prisoners. He said there was a Prisoner of War Camp at the base of 
Catawba Mountain on Bradshaw Road "on the other side of the mountain from 
the hospital". Gibby said the prisoners were used to cut the grass and do 
yard work at the Sanitarium. Gibby had relatives who lived near the camp 
and told us about the prisoners "removing some water melons from their garden".

Passed around were the March 2010 "Trains" magazine, a photo from before 
VGN electrification, of a man walking across the high bridge at Glen Lyn, 
and a J. L. Scott 1997 photo taken from the Walnut Ave Bridge showing the 
connection from the N&W Winston Salem line to the old Virginian at JK, 
still in place.

Our "Jewel from the Past" like one in Wis Sowder's 23 jewel Hamilton 1918 
Model 950 given to him by his uncle when he was 10 years old in 1936, is 
from April 29, 2004: Keith Sowder told us there was a group in Sewells 
Point who used empty coal hoppers going west to transport their untaxed 
liquor during prohibition and even later. VGN personnel in the Roanoke Yard 
got word of this, and set up someone to recon the incoming hoppers on the 
Walnut Ave Bridge. The car with the "hooch" would then be shopped "for 
repairs" as fast as it could be, and hidden on track 9. The hopper would be 
"repaired, by removing the untaxed booze" and released for service...

I passed on to the Brethren a "Spring Excursion" planned by the Roanoke 
Chapter NRHS. We will have a bus take passengers to Lynchburg on Friday May 
14, to catch the Amtrak to Washington. After a 5 hour layover in 
Washington, we will return to Lynchburg and take the bus back to Roanoke. 
More details later.

Glen McLain, our joke man, passed around this joke and it went over well 
with the Brethren, so I will pass it on to you. A lawyer phoned the 
governor's mansion shortly after midnight. "I need to talk to the governor, 
it's an emergency!". The governor's aide eventually agreed to wake him up. 
"So, what is it that's so important that it can't wait until morning?" 
grumbled the governor. "Judge Brown just died, and I want to take his 
place," pleaded the attorney. "Well, its OK with me if its OK with the 
Mortuary," came the reply.

Time to pull the pin on this one!

Departing Now from V248,

Skip Salmon

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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:08:32 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Funny wreck
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 20, 1910

SAW FUNNY WRECK
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Young Man From Georgia Not Used to Seeing Big Mallet Engines

    The following strange but true story is told of a young man who recently came to this city from Georgia on a visit.  The young man in company with the friend he was visiting passed along Princeton avenue, near the Mercer street bridge, when he suddenly noticed one of the big Norfolk and Western Mallet engines.  The young man looked at it for about two minutes but never said a word.  That night at the supper table he said at a dull moment that he had seen the funniest wreck up street he had ever seen.  When questioned about it he said he saw two engines which had run together so hard that they were jammed together in such a way that they looked like one engine.  When the story of the Mallet engine was told to him he would hardly believe it possible.  The Norfolk and Western has the largest engines of any southern road and until a short time ago was the only southern road except the Virginian to own a Mallet.  Recently the Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio has purchased some of the engines which are of a smaller type than the Norfolk and Western engines.
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:17:24 -0500
Subject: Steam draft gear
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I think all the forces those engines put on couplers would destroy the 
cushioning mechanics.
Cushioning is put on cars that may carry more fragile stock.
Lump coal doesn't need that. The A, at least my BLI model has a 
rotateable hideable coupler, and was not designed for the pusher service 
than for more the lighter leveler grades and higher speed running, 
sometimes ran passenger.

-Lynn Willer-


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> Did the A's or Y's use cushioned draft gear on their pilots?  Given the amount of double heading / pushing these two classes did, it would seem it would have been beneficial. 
>
> Matt Goodman
> Columbus, OH
>
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>
>
>
>   

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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:16:07 -0500
Subject: Steam draft gear
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Check N&W drawing G44246 (Locator NW-G44246) in the Archives portion of the 
N&WHS website.  This shows that the swing couplers on Class A, J, K2 and K2a 
locomotive were pinned directly to the locomotive underframe--no draft gear. 
Even though these front couplers were not backed up with draft gears, 
engineers could see ahead well enough to make a gentle coupling, plus 
whatever car was being coupled to would have a draft gear to provide some 
cushioning.

Gordon Hamilton

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> Did the A's or Y's use cushioned draft gear on their pilots?  Given the 
> amount of double heading / pushing these two classes did, it would seem it 
> would have been beneficial.
>
> Matt Goodman
> Columbus, OH
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:23:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: ***CANCELLED*** Model Railroad Open House-February 6, 2010 ***
	CANCELLED
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All, 

The Baltimore area is forecast to receive 18-24 inches of snow beginning sometime Friday and lasting most of the day Saturday.? This will make travel for all dangerous as blizzard conditions with high winds are forecast as well. 

Under the circumstances, I have decided to cancel my open house for Saturday evening, February 6.? The latest information available about the Timonium Show?indicates it will still be held. 

Please pass the word along that I will not be open Saturday evening.? Hopefully, the weather will be cooperative next year! 

Best wishes and safe traveling to all. 

Jim Brewer 
Glenwood MD
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:11:12 -0500
Subject: ***CANCELLED*** Model Railroad Open House-February 6,
	2010 ***	CANCELLED
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What's the latest on the Timonim show?

Walter Gay
waltrail1 at verizon.net



On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:23 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

>
> All,
>
> The Baltimore area is forecast to receive 18-24 inches of snow  
> beginning sometime Friday and lasting most of the day Saturday.   
> This will make travel for all dangerous as blizzard conditions with  
> high winds are forecast as well.
>
> Under the circumstances, I have decided to cancel my open house for  
> Saturday evening, February 6.  The latest information available  
> about the Timonium Show indicates it will still be held.
>
> Please pass the word along that I will not be open Saturday  
> evening.  Hopefully, the weather will be cooperative next year!
>
> Best wishes and safe traveling to all.
>
> Jim Brewer
> Glenwood MD
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:46:17 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Tunnel
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 21, 1910

IN CITY AND COALFIELD
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Tunnel Nearing Completion
    A. D. Wynne, foreman on the grade work of the east end approach to the big tunnel being cut for the Norfolk and Western at Cedar Bluff [Tunnel No. 3, L=4769', on Dry Fork Branch near Bandy, VA], and Crockett Beavers, who is employed on the same contract, are in the city.  Mr. Wynne reports that his force will be ready to turn the arch at the east end Friday and that the west end entrance will be ready within fifteen days.
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:05:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: ***CANCELLED*** Model Railroad Open House-February 6, 2010 ***
	CANCELLED
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Show is still on according to the web site: 



http://www.gsmts.com/ 




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What's the latest on the Timonim show? 





Walter Gay 
waltrail1 at verizon.net 





On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:23 PM, NW Mailing List wrote: 






All, 

The Baltimore area is forecast to receive 18-24 inches of snow beginning sometime Friday and lasting most of the day Saturday.? This will make travel for all dangerous as blizzard conditions with high winds are forecast as well. 

Under the circumstances, I have decided to cancel my open house for Saturday evening, February 6.? The latest information available about the Timonium Show?indicates it will still be held. 

Please pass the word along that I will not be open Saturday evening.? Hopefully, the weather will be cooperative next year! 

Best wishes and safe traveling to all. 

Jim Brewer 
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:56:25 -0800
Subject: Steam draft gear
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How common was it to provide draft gear for front couplers on steam  
locos?  Judging from a lot of brass models that I have (where this  
detail is presumably correctly modeled), not too common, I'd say.

pete groom
On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:16 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

> Check N&W drawing G44246 (Locator NW-G44246) in the Archives portion  
> of the N&WHS website.  This shows that the swing couplers on Class  
> A, J, K2 and K2a locomotive were pinned directly to the locomotive  
> underframe--no draft gear. Even though these front couplers were not  
> backed up with draft gears, engineers could see ahead well enough to  
> make a gentle coupling, plus whatever car was being coupled to would  
> have a draft gear to provide some cushioning.
>
> Gordon Hamilton
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>> Did the A's or Y's use cushioned draft gear on their pilots?  Given  
>> the amount of double heading / pushing these two classes did, it  
>> would seem it would have been beneficial.
>>
>> Matt Goodman
>> Columbus, OH
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:19:45 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Lots of news
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 30, 1910

IN CITY AND COALFIELD
------
Loses His Foot
    Sam Goodall, a seventeen-year-old boy, who is the only support of a widowed mother, lost his left foot at Oakvale yesterday when he fell from a freight underneath the wheels.  The boy and a companion of about the same age, were riding on the train.  Goodall tried to snatch the hat of his friend while the train was in motion.  He missed the hat and lost his balance, falling underneath the wheels.  He was brought to this city on an engine and taken to the Bluefield Sanitarium where his injuries were treated.  The boy's house is at Ingleside.
------
No Branch Line to Roanoke
    The Daily Telegraph has learned that the Chesapeake and Ohio is not planning the construction of a branch line to Roanoke or any other point in that section.  This information comes from the office of the president.  An effort to learn from the same source whether the Chesapeake and Ohio intends to extend its Big Sandy branch was not productive of results.  It is therefore likely [sic] that such an extension of the Big Sandy branch such as has been mentioned in the Daily Telegraph is contemplated.
------
Not Hurt by Fall From Train
    While under the influence of a jag George Teller, of Narrows, was thrown from a freight train yesterday at Lurich and owning to his load he was able to escape injury.  The man tried to catch a passing freight but was unable to do so.  He was thrown to the ground and when picked up it was thought his back was broken, but an examination proved that his  suppleness, due to the inactivity of the muscles, saved him from the broken back.
------
Sensation at Bramwell
    Quite a sensation was created in Bramwell yesterday when Dr. Ed. Jones arrived in town with his Hupmobile.  Those who knew he was coming, and there were a good many of them, lined the streets awaiting the arrival of the doctor with his harbinger of better roads.  Several went out on horseback to see the car make the hills, but it went to town without any trouble.  This is the fist car which has made the run from this city to Bramwell and the Hupmobile is the first car owned and driven in Bramwell.  Several Bramwellites own cars which they drive in the east but heretofore they have been content to leave them there.  The car took the route to Bramwell via Hales's crossing near Midway.
------
Excursion Circus Day
    The Norfolk and Western has announced an excursion from the Clinch Valley to Bluefield for the eighth of September when the Hagenbeck-Wallace circus will be here.  Owing to the law passed by the last session of the Virginia legislature circuses cannot show in Virginia, the license fee of over $1,000 for each performance being prohibitive.  On this account the towns on the borders of the adjoining states are getting the business this year.
------
Lost Left Leg
    Sam Musslewhite, of Big Four, a miner, lost his left leg near Claren yesterday afternoon about 3.30 o'clock when, in attempting to catch a passing freight train, he fell beneath the cars.  He was found a short time afterwards by a section hand and sent to the Miners' Hospital, at Welch.
------
Inspection Tour
    President L. E. Johnson and a few of the officials will pass over the Norfolk and Western today on a tour of inspection.  The party will arrive in a special train.
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[Lots of railroad items--and one railroad competitor item-- that day!]

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:03:37 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Coal movement
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 31, 1910

EASTERN MOVEMENT OF COAL IS VERY HEAVY
------
Half Million Tons More Dumped Over Lamberts Point Pier Than Ever Before, Mr. Barrett Says
    F. R. Barrett, of Norfolk, is authority for the statement that up to the 10th of this month the Norfolk and Western had dumped over Lamberts Point over 500,000 tons more coal than has been dumped at the same period in the history of the Lamberts Point pier.
    This record speaks well for the eastern movement so far this year and shows that the western movement, which has been enormous, is not the only movement which the Norfolk and Western depends upon.
    According to semi-official advices the shipments for the past fifteen days on the railroad have been record breaking and some trouble has been experienced in getting enough cars to supply the demand.  The outlook at this time is such that it is believed the Norfolk and Western will equal if not exceed the wonderful record of last month when the road shipped within seven thousand of a million and a half tons.  The cars during the past month have averaged a smaller tonnage than the month previous and this may reduce the total although it will be close to the million and a half mark.
    Every coal agency in the city has a large number of unfilled lump orders which are slow in filling on account of the lack of demand for slack and the lack of call for coke, which situation does not seem to improve, although a healthier movement of coke is expected next month.  If these lump orders could be filled as fast as they come in and assurances given the market that the business could be taken care of, the Norfolk and Western would have more than it could handle.
    One feature of the movement which is noticeable this fall is the lack of wrecks on the road.  Last year about this time the road was having all kinds of trouble and cars were being smashed up every day.  The percentage of cars broken up or smashed this year is small, thereby adding considerably to the car supply.  It has, however, shown its effect on the shop forces, which are not crowded as they have been in former years, although the road is hauling more tonnage than ever before in its history.  These little things have a big effect on the earnings of the company as it is not necessary to keep equipment in the shops.
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Subject: N&W in 1910--Coal movement
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At this time, 1910, where were the N&Ws WESTERN coal movements going to? 



Al Kresse 


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Bluefield Daily Telegraph 
August 30, 1910 

IN CITY AND COALFIELD 
------ 
Loses His Foot 
?? ?Sam Goodall, a seventeen-year-old boy, who is the only support of a widowed mother, lost his left foot at Oakvale yesterday when he fell from a freight underneath the wheels. ?The boy and a companion of about the same age, were riding on the train. ?Goodall tried to snatch the hat of his friend while the train was in motion. ?He missed the hat and lost his balance, falling underneath the wheels. ?He was brought to this city on an engine and taken to the Bluefield Sanitarium where his injuries were treated. ?The boy's house is at Ingleside. 
------ 
No Branch Line to Roanoke 
?? ?The Daily Telegraph has learned that the Chesapeake and Ohio is not planning the construction of a branch line to Roanoke or any other point in that section. ?This information comes from the office of the president. ?An effort to learn from the same source whether the Chesapeake and Ohio intends to extend its Big Sandy branch was not productive of results. ?It is therefore likely [sic] that such an extension of the Big Sandy branch such as has been mentioned in the Daily Telegraph is contemplated. 
------ 
Not Hurt by Fall From Train 
?? ?While under the influence of a jag George Teller, of Narrows, was thrown from a freight train yesterday at Lurich and owning to his load he was able to escape injury. ?The man tried to catch a passing freight but was unable to do so. ?He was thrown to the ground and when picked up it was thought his back was broken, but an examination proved that his ?suppleness, due to the inactivity of the muscles, saved him from the broken back. 
------ 
Sensation at Bramwell 
?? ?Quite a sensation was created in Bramwell yesterday when Dr. Ed. Jones arrived in town with his Hupmobile. ?Those who knew he was coming, and there were a good many of them, lined the streets awaiting the arrival of the doctor with his harbinger of better roads. ?Several went out on horseback to see the car make the hills, but it went to town without any trouble. ?This is the fist car which has made the run from this city to Bramwell and the Hupmobile is the first car owned and driven in Bramwell. ?Several Bramwellites own cars which they drive in the east but heretofore they have been content to leave them there. ?The car took the route to Bramwell via Hales's crossing near Midway. 
------ 
Excursion Circus Day 
?? ?The Norfolk and Western has announced an excursion from the Clinch Valley to Bluefield for the eighth of September when the Hagenbeck-Wallace circus will be here. ?Owing to the law passed by the last session of the Virginia legislature circuses cannot show in Virginia, the license fee of over $1,000 for each performance being prohibitive. ?On this account the towns on the borders of the adjoining states are getting the business this year. 
------ 
Lost Left Leg 
?? ?Sam Musslewhite, of Big Four, a miner, lost his left leg near Claren yesterday afternoon about 3.30 o'clock when, in attempting to catch a passing freight train, he fell beneath the cars. ?He was found a short time afterwards by a section hand and sent to the Miners' Hospital, at Welch. 
------ 
Inspection Tour 
?? ?President L. E. Johnson and a few of the officials will pass over the Norfolk and Western today on a tour of inspection. ?The party will arrive in a special train. 
------ 
[Lots of railroad items--and one railroad competitor item-- that day!] 

Gordon Hamilton 
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Subject: N&W in 1910--Coal movement 
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph 
August 31, 1910 

EASTERN MOVEMENT OF COAL IS VERY HEAVY 
------ 
Half Million Tons More Dumped Over Lamberts Point Pier Than Ever Before, Mr. Barrett Says 
?? ?F. R. Barrett, of Norfolk, is authority for the statement that up to the 10th of this month the Norfolk and Western had dumped over Lamberts Point over 500,000 tons more coal than has been dumped at the same period in the history of the Lamberts Point pier. 
?? ?This record speaks well for the eastern movement so far this year and shows that the western movement, which has been enormous, is not the only movement which the Norfolk and Western depends upon. 
?? ?According to semi-official advices the shipments for the past fifteen days on the railroad have been record breaking and some trouble has been experienced in getting enough cars to supply the demand. ?The outlook at this time is such that it is believed the Norfolk and Western will equal if not exceed the wonderful record of last month when the road shipped within seven thousand of a million and a half tons. ?The cars during the past month have averaged a smaller tonnage than the month previous and this may reduce the total although it will be close to the million and a half mark. 
?? ?Every coal agency in the city has a large number of unfilled lump orders which are slow in filling on account of the lack of demand for slack and the lack of call for coke, which situation does not seem to improve, although a healthier movement of coke is expected next month. ?If these lump orders could be filled as fast as they come in and assurances given the market that the business could be taken care of, the Norfolk and Western would have more than it could handle. 
?? ?One feature of the movement which is noticeable this fall is the lack of wrecks on the road. ?Last year about this time the road was having all kinds of trouble and cars were being smashed up every day. ?The percentage of cars broken up or smashed this year is small, thereby adding considerably to the car supply. ?It has, however, shown its effect on the shop forces, which are not crowded as they have been in former years, although the road is hauling more tonnage than ever before in its history. ?These little things have a big effect on the earnings of the company as it is not necessary to keep equipment in the shops. 
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