From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Mon Dec 28 11:40:12 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:40:12 -0500 Subject: N&W in 1910--Fast train Message-ID: <1789B11C7A764DA38B1F4476291C3570@DellVostro> Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 15, 1910 FAST TRAIN PROBABLE ------ Norfolk and Western to Make Bid for Through Passenger Service There is a rumor in railroad circles that within a year Bluefield will have a fast train running from Columbus to Norfolk which will compete with the passenger trains on other roads which make more of a specialty of carrying passengers. The rumor states that as soon as the double track work and tunnel work is completed on the western division and the extension of the Winston-Salem line to connect with the Atlantic Coast Line is finished a train will be run from Columbus to Norfolk which will have a southern connection over the Winston-Salem route. This train will have the best cars to be secured and will give a short route to the south from the north and west. One rumor has it that there will be a solid vestibule train which will make stops only at important points and will run direct to the south, while another states there will be a vestibule train from Roanoke on, part of the train going into Norfolk. The Chesapeake and Ohio calls its fast trains the Fast Flying Virginian, but the Norfolk and Western train should be known as the "Sunny South Route." Everyone in the north talks about the Sunny South and the southerners like it. The traveling men would like to see chair cars on some of the trains the road now has as it is pretty hot riding though the coalfield these days. ------ Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim dcochran116 at roadrunner.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Dec 29 00:59:19 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:59:19 -0500 Subject: N&W in 1910--Various In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <745CBDE18B6240A88A6B76C86B129BE5@MillsPC> George maybe it was built under the guise of N&W or Virginian as both railroads did go into Gilbert. Don Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: 3N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: N&W in 1910--Various Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 15, 1910 IN CITY AND COALFIELD ------ Narrow Escape From Death S. C. Combs had a very narrow escape from death yesterday at Glen Alum when a flue burst in the engine on which he was fireman. The escaping steam burned him very badly about the face and arms. Engineer Marshall escaped unharmed. The accident occurred about 6:30 and Combs was brought to this city on train No. 2 which arrived here about noon. He was carried to the Bluefield Sanitarium where his burns were treated. [This is the second N&W boiler failure reported in as many days. Glen Alum, WV is on the main line between Devon and Wharnclife.] ------ New Railroad Chartered A new Railroad has been chartered to run from Lenore on Pigeon Creek, Tug Fork of Big Sandy, to the Mouth of Gilbert's Creek on the Guyandotte river. The capital stock is $50,000* and the incorporators are Simon P. Richmond, V. L. Black, L. G. Summerfield, Augus W. McDonald and George S. Couch, Jr., all of Charleston. The road will tap a large lumber, coal and oil territory. [*This number was blurred on the microfilm; the best interpretation is shown. I don't think this railroad was ever built.] ------ Money for Attachments Squire Godbey yesterday received $300 from the Norfolk and Western, which will be used to satisfy attachments which have been run on railroad employes during the past month. This money will be ready for distribution at once. Some of the money recovered represents debts many months old, to recover which suit has been entered in the magistrate's court. ------ Gordon Hamilton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Dec 29 11:17:57 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:17:57 -0500 Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews Message-ID: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> I'm working on an article for the Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS newsletter, The Rail. The article is on Levi K Matthews who worked for the N&W for 38 years. He died in September of 1927. Can anyone on the list give me information on where he worked and what his job history might have been? From the picture of his tombstone in Walnut Cove I presume one of his positions was as an engineer. Any information would be appreciated and as soon as I can scan the tombstone photo I'll share with you. George George L. Weber Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS Secretary - Newsletter Editor Hm: 336-812-2963 Ofc: 336-474-5411 Cell: 336-870-4506 "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Dec 29 17:44:09 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:44:09 -0500 Subject: N&W in 1910--Various References: <745CBDE18B6240A88A6B76C86B129BE5@MillsPC> Message-ID: <45AAA7F81E584D959B6F94418109A5E5@DellVostro> Don, Thanks for your comment. It made me reconsider my comment about the line's having never been built. The mouth of Gilbert Creek mentioned in the newspaper article is at Gilbert, WV, but the only N&W line into Gilbert came from a junction on the main line at Wharncliffe up Ben Creek, through Staggerweed Tunnel, and down Gilbert Creek to Gilbert. What I did not consider was N&W's Lenore Branch, which was not started until 1920, according to N&W Annual Reports, and was eventually built to Scarlet Glen, WV, in the direction of Gilbert, but never reaching Gilbert. Maybe the Lenore Branch was built under the ten-year-old charter, but considering that the 1910 incorporators were in Charleston, I doubt it, particularly because the 1920 N&W annual report on the beginning of the construction of the Lenore Branch makes no mention of assuming an earlier charter. Gordon Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: NW Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:59 AM Subject: Re: N&W in 1910--Various George maybe it was built under the guise of N&W or Virginian as both railroads did go into Gilbert. Don Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: 3N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: N&W in 1910--Various Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 15, 1910 IN CITY AND COALFIELD ------ Narrow Escape From Death S. C. Combs had a very narrow escape from death yesterday at Glen Alum when a flue burst in the engine on which he was fireman. The escaping steam burned him very badly about the face and arms. Engineer Marshall escaped unharmed. The accident occurred about 6:30 and Combs was brought to this city on train No. 2 which arrived here about noon. He was carried to the Bluefield Sanitarium where his burns were treated. [This is the second N&W boiler failure reported in as many days. Glen Alum, WV is on the main line between Devon and Wharnclife.] ------ New Railroad Chartered A new Railroad has been chartered to run from Lenore on Pigeon Creek, Tug Fork of Big Sandy, to the Mouth of Gilbert's Creek on the Guyandotte river. The capital stock is $50,000* and the incorporators are Simon P. Richmond, V. L. Black, L. G. Summerfield, Augus W. McDonald and George S. Couch, Jr., all of Charleston. The road will tap a large lumber, coal and oil territory. [*This number was blurred on the microfilm; the best interpretation is shown. I don't think this railroad was ever built.] ------ Money for Attachments Squire Godbey yesterday received $300 from the Norfolk and Western, which will be used to satisfy attachments which have been run on railroad employes during the past month. This money will be ready for distribution at once. Some of the money recovered represents debts many months old, to recover which suit has been entered in the magistrate's court. ------ Gordon Hamilton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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At first, little credence was given the report and it was generally accepted as one of those vague and groundless statements, arising from untrustworthy sources and passing away without attracting serious attention. When the rumor persisted, the Roanoke Times determined to make inquire at headquarters. It called up the general offices of the Virginian in Norfolk this morning and asked for Harvey T. Hall, general counsel of the road, a former prominent attorney at Roanoke. On being informed of the nature of the rumor in circulation here, Mr. Hall said that it is absolutely without foundation. "I have heard nothing whatever of such a matter, " said Mr. Hall. "The Virginian is getting along in fine shape." G. A. Wingfield, assistant counsel of the Virginian, who is in Roanoke on legal business, was seen by a reporter of the Times, and asked about the report. Mr. Wingfield said that such report is entirely without foundation. "The Virginian is not only meeting all its running expenses, but is paying a part of its interest, which is a remarkable record," added Mr. Wingfield, "when you consider that it is a new road." ------ Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Dec 29 22:54:12 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:54:12 -0500 Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews In-Reply-To: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> References: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> Message-ID: George: Is the Rail available online? Sounds interesting Thanks, Mike Weeks Greenville NC ?Big things are expected of us, and nothing big ever came of being small.? Bill Clinton _________________________________ Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013 MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003 BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989 ________________________________________ From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List [nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:17 AM To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews I'm working on an article for the Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS newsletter, The Rail. The article is on Levi K Matthews who worked for the N&W for 38 years. He died in September of 1927. Can anyone on the list give me information on where he worked and what his job history might have been? From the picture of his tombstone in Walnut Cove I presume one of his positions was as an engineer. Any information would be appreciated and as soon as I can scan the tombstone photo I'll share with you. George George L. Weber Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS Secretary - Newsletter Editor Hm: 336-812-2963 Ofc: 336-474-5411 Cell: 336-870-4506 "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Wed Dec 30 08:28:43 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:28:43 -0500 Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews In-Reply-To: References: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> Message-ID: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1731@lex98ex1> It will be soon through the Winston-Salem Chapter web-site, www.wsnrhs.org, but I will gladly send a copy to anyone who would like to receive it. Wishing all a very Happy and SAFE New Year. George George L. Weber Lexington Home Brands Unix Systems Administrator Ofc: 336-474-5411 Pager: 336-637-6714 "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help" - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! -----Original Message----- From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:54 PM To: NW Mailing List Subject: RE: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews George: Is the Rail available online? Sounds interesting Thanks, Mike Weeks Greenville NC "Big things are expected of us, and nothing big ever came of being small." Bill Clinton _________________________________ Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013 MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003 BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989 ________________________________________ From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List [nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:17 AM To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews I'm working on an article for the Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS newsletter, The Rail. The article is on Levi K Matthews who worked for the N&W for 38 years. He died in September of 1927. Can anyone on the list give me information on where he worked and what his job history might have been? From the picture of his tombstone in Walnut Cove I presume one of his positions was as an engineer. Any information would be appreciated and as soon as I can scan the tombstone photo I'll share with you. George George L. Weber Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS Secretary - Newsletter Editor Hm: 336-812-2963 Ofc: 336-474-5411 Cell: 336-870-4506 "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Wed Dec 30 11:08:34 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:08:34 -0500 Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews In-Reply-To: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> References: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> Message-ID: <0KVH00KRA3HYALRY@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Thu Dec 31 09:05:25 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:05:25 -0500 Subject: "Taking Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren Message-ID: <4B3CAFA5.8080505@vt.edu> Last night, on the eve of New Year's Eve 2009, I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with eight of the Brethren and Friends of the Virginian Railway. We signed a Happy Birthday card for Ronnie Victory, who is a retired Norfolk Southern clerk, and is turning 66 today. I remember his dad, Thomas "Cornbread" Victory telling us about Ronnie's birth on New Year's Eve in 1943. We lost Cornbread in August this year. I passed around the December 2009 "NRHS News", monthly publication of the National Railway Historical Society. Page 11 has a story "Roanoke Chapter gets new flag and pole on September 11" with photos of the flag and pole, Speaker Congressman Bob Goodlatte, and artist's rendering of the restored Virginian Railway station and depot. Also passed was the February 2010 "Trains" magazine. This issue has a great Ed King story "I oughta sue'em" about Ed's "perfect job with N&W, three times" and his experiences in Bristol, VA-TN. On page 12 under "Abandonments & Acquisitions" is listed: "Charleston, Blue Creek & Sanderson Railway will lease from Norfolk Southern and reactivate two coal branches in West Virginia: a 25.9 mile line from Charleston to Morris Fork (former Kanawha & West Virginia) and a 3.7 mile branch from Falling Rock to Blue Creek(ex-B&O). The lease is in effect for 20 years. NS will retain operating rights". The last ebay report of 2009 is a slide of VGN EL-2B #126 in a curve somewhere on the VGN, selling for $45.99. I told the Brethren about the recent email from "Patrick J", concerning H. Reid's account of a USRA "big wig" needing to get from Roanoke to Norfolk in 1918. He was accommodated with a "little over a 4 hour run on his private car". This "qued up" many stories about fast and unusual running. Raymond East recalled a set of "VGN squareheads" finally getting stopped east the Walnut Ave Bridge, past the last section of overhead power, and having to be "rescued by a steam engine". Rufus Wingfield then told a story that "raised some eye brows". Rufus said he was looking out the Yard Office window one night and saw a yard engine, running under the 11,000 volt line for the electrics, "belch out a lot of steam and a ball of fire fell to the ground from the wires as big as a bushel basket". This induced a discussion about what would happen if the wire actually fell on an occupied engine or even worse, a passenger train running under the high voltage line. I contacted our expert, Russell R. McDaniel, about this situation. Russ told me that each power sub-station (last one from Narrows eastward was at Wabun, west of Salem) had a large oil filled breaker-cutout that would trip if the line was grounded. Also each electric locomotive had a breaker for the same purpose. He also said though, that these cutouts were hardly ever tested or maintained, and when they were "activated by a ground fault, most times they had to be replaced". He once tried to repair a line, instead of replacing it, that had tripped a locomotive breaker. When the pantograph went back up, "the sky lit up". I passed on to him my experience as an electrician apprentice, going to South Yard with an N&W electrician to troubleshoot an EL-C problem on a grave yard shift. When the electrician raised the pantograph, with the locomotive "on line", the "whole Yard lit up like a giant flash bulb had gone off in my face". I showed the Brethren the 100 year old "Illinois" pocket watch that I got as a Christmas present from my son Stephen. We of course then talked about watches, watch inspections and "railroad approved" versus non railroad approved. Landon Gregory, pocket watch collector extraordinare, "let it slip" that he owns over twenty "railroad approved" pocket watches... On this blue moon New Year's Eve (next blue moon will be August 2012), I leave you with this story: Landon called the "Roanoke Times" last week to report that he had not gotten his Sunday paper. The nice lady on the phone told him, " Mr. Gregory, this is Saturday". Landon then replied in a low voice "No wonder no one was at Church this morning". Time to pull the pin on this one! HAPPY NEW YEAR from V248, Skip Salmon __._,_.___ From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Thu Dec 31 14:17:05 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:17:05 -0500 Subject: N&W in 1910--Busy Message-ID: <72FAC8622E8A4DB5ACCC58F844951408@DellVostro> Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 17, 1910 BOX CARS BUSY ------ Norfolk and Western Developing Heavy Through Freight Business The Norfolk and Western is developing a heavy through freight business which is keeping its box cars busy. This movement originates at either end of the line and is carried from one end to the other on fast trains. In fact, the Norfolk and Western can have shipments made over its line from eastern points via Norfolk, Va., and in spite of the water route they are able to land their cars in Cincinnati and Columbus ahead of other all-rail shippers. This business is showing such a remarkable increase that the freight agents and officials can take a good deal of credit to themselves as they are deserving of it. It may be that the road will in time be able to haul enough through freight on return empty loads to more than pay for hauling the empty coal cars, which is a big expense. The Norfolk and Western is coming and some of these days will get its passenger department in such shape that it will not advertise an excursion to Norfolk with no sleeping facilities for the return trip which is started at 9 o'clock at night. Comfort on a railroad train is the biggest ad a railroad can have and there is not much comfort riding at night on a cheap excursion when people have to sit up all night. ------ [It sounds as though the reporter wanted to sneak in his criticism of the excursion by tacking it onto an article about freight business.] Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Thu Dec 31 14:37:07 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:37:07 -0500 Subject: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews In-Reply-To: <0KVH00KRA3HYALRY@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1727@lex98ex1> <0KVH00KRA3HYALRY@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1AE5A77582D956479BB3952950D0121C012C1756@lex98ex1> Jim: Thank you for the information on Levi. It will be included in the newsletter article. I appreciate your help. Attached is the photo of his family's memorial to him in a Walnut Cove cemetery. Happy New Year to All. George George L. Weber Lexington Home Brands Unix Systems Administrator Ofc: 336-474-5411 Pager: 336-637-6714 "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help" - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! ________________________________ From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:09 AM To: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: Former N&W Employee - Levi K. Matthews George The following was published in the November 1927 issue of the Norfolk and Western magazine on page 1024 "Levi K. Matthews retired engineer, Shenandoah Division, died suddenly on September 13. He was born in Forsyth County, NC on December 2, 1858, and entered the service of the Norfolk and western on January 15, 1889, as fireman, Shenandoah Division. He was promoted to engineer on September 4, 1889, and continued in this capacity until his retirement." The following information was published by the operating brotherhoods in the early 1920 as information to merchants for their consideration of their members when customers. "Matthews, L. K. engineer Winston Salem District - Shenandoah Division, engineer March 1, 1892. He was number 1 on the list of engineers when this list was published" I have found errors in seniority dates in both publications for other members of the operating brotherhoods from time to time. In checking the roster of engineers I was unable to find any on this division with a seniority date prior to 1892. This is the date the N&W leased the Roanoke and Southern. My best guess is both published dates may be correct. The information in the November issue of the Norfolk and Western magazine would have been the dates hired and promoted by the Roanoke and Southern. The March 1892 date would be the date hired under the Norfolk and Western lease and continued under the N&W. The Roanoke & Southern Railway was purchased outright by Norfolk & Western Railway at time of reorganization on Dec. 2, 1896. Jim Blackstock At 11:17 AM 12/29/2009, you wrote: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA88A2.7BBC9B67" I'm working on an article for the Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS newsletter, The Rail. The article is on Levi K Matthews who worked for the N&W for 38 years. He died in September of 1927. Can anyone on the list give me information on where he worked and what his job history might have been? From the picture of his tombstone in Walnut Cove I presume one of his positions was as an engineer. Any information would be appreciated and as soon as I can scan the tombstone photo I'll share with you. George George L. Weber Winston-Salem Chapter NRHS Secretary - Newsletter Editor Hm: 336-812-2963 Ofc: 336-474-5411 Cell: 336-870-4506 "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan Appreciate Freedom??? Thank a Veteran!!! ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Levi-Matthews.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 314695 bytes Desc: Levi-Matthews.jpg Url : From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Fri Jan 1 17:12:18 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:12:18 -0500 Subject: Virginian in 1910--Rumor Message-ID: <7E4F6F670BBB4A569C431216B574321D@DellVostro> Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 17, 1910 RECEIVER RUMOR AGAIN ------ New York Central Likely to Become Ultimate Owner of Virginia [sic] There is a rumor in New York and eastern cities that the Virginian Railway will pass into the hands of a receiver before many months. This rumor is based on the fact that an attempt is being made to take up the seven per cent. Rogers notes with Virginian Railway bonds and on the report that the Virginian is in need of ready money for many purposes and this money is not being advanced by the Rogers estate. The rumor is denied by the railway officials who declare positively they never heard of such a thing but the rumor continues to go the rounds. The Norfolk and Western and the Chesapeake and Ohio cannot own it as they could not operate it under the interstate laws. The Pennsylvania might take it but it is much more reasonable to suppose, judging from other preparations which have been made, that the New York Central will be the people who will eventually become the owners of it. ------ Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sat Jan 2 10:43:06 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:43:06 -0500 Subject: N&W in 1910--Conductor Message-ID: <898357AAAB2B4783A50CA3FCE0C368F1@DellVostro> Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 19, 1910 PIONEER CONDUCTOR ------ Captain George W. Thomas, of Salem, was a visitor to the city yesterday. Captain Thomas was the first conductor to go through the Elkhorn tunnel and he helped to build the present Pocahontas division, being a foreman in charge of workmen. He is here on a visit to his daughter. ------ [I remember when it was common to address passenger train conductors as "Captain."] Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jan 3 13:46:23 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:46:23 -0500 Subject: Virginian in 1910--Crash Message-ID: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> Bluefield Daily Telegraph July 24, 1910 EXCURSION TRAIN CRASHES INTO FREIGHT ------ Loaded With Negroes Bound From Princeton to Roanoke--No One Injured Roanoke, Va., July 23. (Special)--A negro [sic] excursion train on the Virginian railway [sic], bound from Princeton, W. Va., to Roanoke, ran into a freight train on a curve near Salem this evening. No body [sic] was injured and no damage was done except the derailing of the engine and the smashing of the caboose of the freight. ------ Gordon Hamilton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jan 3 15:35:15 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:35:15 -0500 Subject: Virginian in 1910--Crash In-Reply-To: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> References: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> Message-ID: <20100103203521.YWFX7328.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> In my day this is what we called "Short Flagging". HB Lyon At 01:46 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote: > >EXCURSION TRAIN CRASHES INTO FREIGHT >------ >Loaded With Negroes Bound From Princeton to Roanoke--No One Injured > Roanoke, Va., July 23. (Special)--A negro [sic] excursion train > on the Virginian railway [sic], bound from Princeton, W. Va., to > Roanoke, ran into a freight train on a curve near Salem this > evening. No body [sic] was injured and no damage was done except > the derailing of the engine and the smashing of the caboose of the freight. >------ >Gordon Hamilton >________________________________________ >NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org >To change your subscription go to >http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list >Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at >http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jan 3 16:14:14 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:14:14 -0500 Subject: Hopper Car usage in steam era In-Reply-To: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> References: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> Message-ID: <8CC5AD0D6587534-1FF8-72DE2@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Hello and Happy New Year to all. During the period when N&W was providing 50/55 ton hoppers and 70 ton hoppers, How was it determined what type went to a tipple? Did the tipple call for cars by type? (eg. Tipple X needs forty 70 ton cars) Did the tipple expect to load x tons per day so N&W just send what it had at the yard? The reason I ask is that I model a fictitious coal branch and have 55 and 70 ton cars. I am trying to create more operational interest. I have a small yard at the beginning of the branch. After a mine turn comes back to the yard, we sort loaded cars to either go east or west. I thought it might be interesting if the tipples called for mty's by type. Then the yard would have to sort mtys by type before a mine run. I suspect there are several different answers based on customer. (Such as on the Tug branch and US Steel) Thanks in advance for your input. Tom Lewis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jan 3 19:57:05 2010 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:57:05 -0500 Subject: short flagging In-Reply-To: <20100103203521.YWFX7328.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> References: <0D2994943DF742EF8D9DC8D03174B14D@DellVostro> <20100103203521.YWFX7328.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> Message-ID: <8CC5AEFF7C80505-8D8-7FEE@web-mmc-d16.sysops.aol.com> Hello HB, Could you explain please what the term "short flagging" means? As a railroader of 21 years in the UK I can supply a guess but it is only that. Does the term mean that the freight train in this instance has stopped on the main and timetable working has allowed another train, the excursion into the same section and the crew of the freight have failed to provide ample warning by flag or fusee of the presence of their train? Apologies if I am way off but I am very interested in how things used to be done. Best regards, Cameron Tyre -----Original Message----- From: NW Mailing List To: NW Mailing List Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:35 pm Subject: Re: Virginian in 1910--Crash In my day this is what we called "Short Flagging". HB Lyon At 01:46 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote: > >EXCURSION TRAIN CRASHES INTO FREIGHT >------ >Loaded With Negroes Bound From Princeton to Roanoke--No One Injured > Roanoke, Va., July 23. (Special)--A negro [sic] excursion train > on the Virginian railway [sic], bound from Princeton, W. Va., to > Roanoke, ran into a freight train on a curve near Salem this > evening. No body [sic] was injured and no damage was done except > the derailing of the engine and the smashing of the caboose of the freight. >------ >Gordon Hamilton >________________________________________ >NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org >To change your subscription go to >http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list >Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at >http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: