N&W in 1910 - Union Station

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You are correct, Gordon.  The union station at St. Paul was north of both 
the N&W and CC&O main tracks.

Louis Newton
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> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:30:53 -0500

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> Subject: Re: Jawn Henery Boiler

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> Louis Newton's book, Rails Remembered, Volume IV, is the best source to 

> begin with.

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> Bud Jeffries

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>  Well,,, this is my first attempt at this N&W mailing list thingie, and 

> the instructions did say to ask questions..

>  I remember the "Jawn Henry" in the Bluefield yards in the late 50's, I 

> can also remember conversation from the shop people about the high 

> pressure boiler and their fear of it's 600 lbs of pressure. I was told 

> that it had a Marine "M" type B&W water tube boiler. My question is; what 

> type of boiler was used and are drawings available?

>

>  Thank you;

>  Gene Arnold

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> Unlike the conventional locomotive boilers we are used to, it was 

> rectangular in shape. Also had a moving grate ? coal in one end and ashes 

> out the other.     Jim Nichols

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> I have to check, but I believe that in the book written on the Jawn, there 

> was a diagram of the boiler.

>

> It may also be in a book titled the N&W the last 25 years of steam.  All 

> my books are in boxes

>

> so it will take a while to find them.  Perhaps someone else may have 

> better access.

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> Regards,

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> Kurt S. Kramke

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> Nov 6, 2009 08:50:43 AM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

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> Well,,, this is my first attempt at this N&W mailing list thingie, and the 

> instructions did say to ask questions..

>

> I remember the "Jawn Henry" in the Bluefield yards in the late 50's, I can 

> also remember conversation from the shop people about the high pressure 

> boiler and their fear of it's 600 lbs of pressure. I was told that it had 

> a Marine "M" type B&W water tube boiler. My question is; what type of 

> boiler was used and are drawings available?

>

>

>

> Thank you;

>

> Gene Arnold

>

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> The water tube boiler designed for the 2300 was made by Baldwin and are 

> not

> available in the Archives.

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>

> A water tube boiler has the water inside the tubes/flues and not the hot

> combustion gases which pass through the tubes/flues in 'conventional'

> construction.   This structure allows a higher pressure to be safely

> maintained in the boiler.  There are a number of thermodynamic and heat

> transfer improvements between a water tube boiler operating at high 

> pressure

> over the normal locomotive boilers with the water outside the tubes/flues.

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> Gary Rolih

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> Secretary N&WHS

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> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:44 AM

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> Subject: Re: Jawn Henery Boiler

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>

>

> I have to check, but I believe that in the book written on the Jawn, there

> was a diagram of the boiler.

>

> It may also be in a book titled the N&W the last 25 years of steam.  All 

> my

> books are in boxes

>

> so it will take a while to find them.  Perhaps someone else may have 

> better

> access.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Kurt S. Kramke

>

>

> Nov 6, 2009 08:50:43 AM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

>

> Well,,, this is my first attempt at this N&W mailing list thingie, and the

> instructions did say to ask questions..

>

> I remember the "Jawn Henry" in the Bluefield yards in the late 50's, I can

> also remember conversation from the shop people about the high pressure

> boiler and their fear of it's 600 lbs of pressure. I was told that it had 

> a

> Marine "M" type B&W water tube boiler. My question is; what type of boiler

> was used and are drawings available?

>

>

>

> Thank you;

>

> Gene Arnold

>

>

>

>

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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:40:42 -0500

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> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

> April 29, 1910

>

> RAILROADS DISAGREE  ON UNION STATION PLANS

> ------

> Breach Between Norfolk and Western And Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio Stop 

> Work at St. Paul

>    Work has been stopped on the union station at St. Paul.  It is rumored 

> that the Norfolk and Western and the Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio have 

> disagreed upon the plans.  The Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio, according 

> to the story which is being told, wants the depot placed so that the 

> Norfolk and Western shall use one side while the Carolina, Clinchfield and 

> Ohio will use the other.  The plans as approved before the appropriations 

> were made call for both tracks to run on the same side of the depot.  This 

> has caused a breach which it is said has been big enough to stop work on 

> the station.  The matter may have to go to the Virginia corporation 

> commission before it can be settled.  Nearly all the material to be used 

> in the construction of the depot is on the ground and ready for the work 

> to be pushed.

> ------

> [My recollection is that the station ended up on the north side of the N&W 

> track which was north of the CC&O track.  Correct?  This was in accordance 

> with the original plans described in the article.]

>

> Gordon Hamilton

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