Hooter Questions

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Nathan - The '38 and 2192's whistles sounded hoarse, like there was water in them (although there was no place water could stay in a whistle).  What caused the hoarse sound I never found out, but there are several movies and/or records of the 1238 where it shows up plainly.  The 1218 never sounded like that.

EdK

---- NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote: 

> Ed,

> 

> I assume that the way 1218's whistle sounds in this video is a Hooter 

> with out water in it.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7-Fu2psjc

> 

> Also what exactly do you mean by having Water in them? Please educate me.

> 

> Nathan

> 

> NW Mailing List wrote:

> > The 475 has the old 7-inch hooter.  The standard hooter at the end was a 12-incher, thus the deeper tone.

> >

> > Several A/Y-6 hooters sounded like they had water in them.  Notorious among these was the 1238 which is on several recordings and movies.  At least one 2100 (2192?) sounded the same way.

> >

> > EdKing

> >

> >

> > ---- NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote: 

> >   

> >> Nathan,

> >>

> >> I believe 475 has the "old" N&W freight whistle installed (or something very similar judging from the size).  The final freight whistle was considerably longer.

> >>

> >> I've also noticed the difference in sound between an A and Y6 on Hooters.  However, I believe it's restricted to one sound track.  Sequence at 48:56 has this contrast with 2177 and 1242 and from the looks of the synch between movie and audio, this is a live soundtrack with the movie.  However, there's a similar movie sequence at 19:17 that seems to use exactly the same soundtrack, but with no steam coming from either whistle.  It also has a different sound for the A, but I believe this is only one sound sample used twice.

> >>

> >> Link made some extensive on train recordings with 1238 and it exhibited the same edgy or "razzy" sound, so it's not unique.

> >>

> >> I don't know what causes this because as you note, it's the same whistle with the same BP.  Did some A's have steel whistles vs brass for others?  That's about the only thing I can think of.

> >>

> >> Dave Stephenson

> >>

> >> --- On Fri, 8/28/09, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> >>

> >>     

> >>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> >>> Subject: Hooter Questions

> >>> To: "NWHS" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> >>> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 9:13 PM

> >>> Hey Gang,

> >>>

> >>> I have a couple questions regarding N&W Hooter

> >>> Whistles. right now I am watching Hooters on Blue Ridge.

> >>> There are a couple segments where there are double headed

> >>> trains with both an Y6 and an A in these segment there is

> >>> essentially a "whistle conversation" between the two. In

> >>> these segments I have noticed a difference in the sound of

> >>> the Whistles the Y6s always have a "Smoother" tone while the

> >>> As have a "Gertle" (like the tone "rattles" all most) in

> >>> them, I have noticed this all though out the movie. IS this

> >>> a difference if Steam pressure? (I thought the Y6 and A

> >>> classes used the same boiler pressure) or is this a

> >>> difference in the actual whistle. I also know a fellow that

> >>> built a replica of a hooter and put it on "His" engine is

> >>> Cass, WV (He is the Shay 5 Engineer) his whistle has the

> >>> "Gertle" is it as well, and Shay 5 is only 200 PSI boiler

> >>> pressure.

> >>>

> >>> I have also noticed the N&W 475 is Strasburg also has a

> >>> Different sound that is different form the two mentioned

> >>> above, is it a Different whistle?

> >>>

> >>> Thanks,

> >>>

> >>> Nathan

> >>>

> >>> -- Nathan Simmons

> >>> trainman51 at gmail.com

> >>> http://www.t-51.org

> >>> KI4MSK

> >>>

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