Steam question regarding the Shenandoah Division

NW Mailing List nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Sun Jul 6 18:30:52 EDT 2008


When I was in high school, I motorcaded a 2100 at an indicated 55 mph
in my '52 Hillman Minx in the Valley. The Y seemed more comfortable
at that speed than did the Hillman.

pete groom
On Jul 6, 2008, at 6:52 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:

"Remember that axle loadings and not just total engine weight plays a
part in weight restrictions too. Don't know how that applies in this
particular place, but I'm sure a J is much heavier per axle than a K."

The Class A was timetable rated for "The Valley", while the J's
were not. I have an idea that clearances on some bridges may have
played a part in this. On the 611 excursion in '94, we had a slow
order on the bridge over state Rt.43 at Buchanan due to a possible
clearance issue.
Maybe an overall smaller number of cars in the consist may have
played a part. I haven't seen any pictures of passenger trains on the
Shenandoah line that seemed like it would tax the capabilities of the
K classes. Use of a J may have been overkill.
Whatever the reason the J's weren't used going north (or south),
I would like to know the actual reason

"Might not be as much a factor with the A though, since the Y's were
so weighted with lead. Rollercoaster profile and inability to reach
speeds at which an A runs most efficiently could have been factors."
Rollercoaster profile would be a non-factor. As for inability of Y's
inability to reach speeds at which an A runs most efficiently, you'll
have to argue with the fast runners of the "Valley" on that one!
Jimmy Lisle

PS:
Too bad hindsight is 20/20. If someone had taken the time to
interview the men of steam back then, "Fast Runners of the Shenandoah
Valley" would have been one helluva title for a book!
JRL
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