ICC Valuation maps and National Archives

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For more information on the National Archives, see the two part artilce in 
the March and April 2008 issues of Railroad Model Craftsman.

The NWHS also has microfilm copies of the Sanborn maps for Virginia, West 
Virginia and Ohio (I believe) in the Archives; not every city is included 
however; for example, I was able to locate maps for Luray, VA, but none for 
Shenandoah, VA; this surprised me given the division point yard there. 
Smaller towns, such as Grottoes, VA were not there either.

Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD

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Subject: ICC Valuation maps and National Archives



> With regard to the ICC valuation Maps at the National

> Archives: I have been there, and only live about 25

> miles away as a matter of fact and have had copied a

> bunch of maps, including several from the N&W

> Shenandoah Valley line and around Roanoke along with

> my principal research project which is the B&O's

> planned and never completed Valley RR to Salem.

>

> The last time I was there, which was last Summer,

> copies of a map typically cost $13.50 EACH and you

> were limited to NO more than 10 maps per day. Many if

> not most of the maps cover about 2 miles of railroad,

> so you can do the math of cost and time for maps.

>

> All this is predicated upon their copier being

> working, a situation which occurred far too frequently

> for me to understand and the thing was out of order

> for weeks at a time.

>

> I can help get you more precise information if you

> like but please remember as to costs that what I have

> given is only an approximation as they charge based on

> the size and I gave the most frequent map size.

>

> Whenever, If you decide to come to the National

> Archives, and especially if you are coming a long

> distance, a lot of planning ahead will be in order as

> well as an early start each day, especially the first

> day when you'll have to fill out forms, register, get

> photographed, etc. It's not difficult, just time

> consuming and, of course is absolutely necessary.

>

> I wouldn't mind being a "correspondent" for people and

> get copies, etc., except for the obvious limitations

> of the quantities one person can get on a daily basis,

> not to mention the fact I don't have an unlimited

> amount of leave I can take from work, something which

> we all have a problem with. With those numbers in mind

> as an example, just the Shenandoah Valley line from

> Hagerstown to Roanoke is a 2+ week job, for one

> person.

>

> This is just the most brief of outlines of what is

> entailed for the maps and I haven't even begun to tell

> you about the photographs they have, which have

> similar limitations and I don't know what the

> photographic copies may cost.

>

> Bob Cohen

>

>

> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:19:48 -0400

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> Subject: RE: Sanborn & ICC Maps

> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> Message-ID:

>

> I got my copy of the the Sanborn fire insurance map

> for Norton at the Library for the University of

> Virginia College at Wise in Wise. I believe that the

> Library of Virginia in Richmond has a complete set of

> the Sanborn fire insurance maps for all of the cities

> in the state.

>

> The Interstate Commerce Commission valuation maps and

> the field engineering notes are available from the

> National Archives, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD

> 20740, e-mail: carto at nara.gov <mail to:carto at nara.gov>

> and phone number: 301-837-3200. If you do not go there

> in person, you have to hire one of the approved

> outside vendors to make the copies for you.

>

> Paul Mandelkern

> Winter Park, Florida

>

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> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:51 PM

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> Subject: Sanborn & ICC Maps

>

> Thanks for the Reply Paul! Where can you get copies

> of these maps from?

>

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> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:20:02 PM

> Subject: RE: Employee Timetables

>

> Based on the 1916 ICC valuation map and the 1929

> Sanborn fire insurance map, the N&W's yard at Norton

> had a turntable but no roundhouse.

>

> Paul Mandelkern

> Winter Park, Florida

>

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> Subject: Employee Timetables

>

>

> Thanks to everyone you responded to my Norton

> questions. If any one else has info they can share I

> would greatly appreciate it.

>

>

> My next question is does anyone know if the N&WHS

> archives contain any employee timetables? I looked on

> their website but didn't see any listed. I'm looking

> for ones from the 1890's thru 1930. If so are copies

> obtainable?

>

> Also, does anyone know if there ever was a Roundhouse

> in Norton? I like this time period and have been able

> to acquire some G1's, W2's, M's, and M1's and now

> trying to lock into a specific time period during that

> era.

>

> Thanks again!

> Charlie

>

>

> 

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