The Cost Savings of Steam Today.

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Mon Jan 14 14:49:13 EST 2008


One thing wrong with your posit, Eric, and that is that "Fed's need to mandate . . ."

Most of our trouble now is because the "Fed's" have become too involved in what's going on. The "Fed's" tell us now we can't drill for our own oil, we can't build new refineries, we can't build modern state-of-the-art nuclear power plants or clean coal-burning power plants.

Now Senator Reid wants to raise taxes on the oil companies. You want gas to go to $6.00 per gallon, support Senator Reid's plan.

You have to remember something about these power company barons - and the oil barons, and the drug barons, and the steel barons, and all those other barons . . .

None of them want to tell you what you can and can't drive, but the "Fed's" do; none of them want to tell you what you can say and when you can say it, but the "Fed's" do; none of them want to tell you what you can eat or not eat, but the "Fed's" do (if I want to eat trans fats, that's my business); none of them want to tell you where and when you can smoke, but the "Fed's" do (secondhand smoke has not been proven to be harmful, just unpleasant) . . .

Ed King
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Gentlemen:

Check out "Green River Formation" Shale Oil deposit in Colo area. U.S. has enough oil (how be it in the shale) to be completely self sufficient from the Arabs right now, not including the coal under our soil and solar collection and wind turbines for simple electrical production for the entire population of the U.S.

Fed's need to mandate the shifting of electrical production out of the hands of the few power company barons and allow home production and green solutions. Major presentations on the Discovery and Science channels over the last 12 - 18 months. The technologies exist right now.

w/ $100 per barrel, it is now very cost effective to go after these solutions.

China and Russia can slug it out between themselves and the Arabs.

Eric

At 01:00 PM 1/14/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Ed Sproles

You are right that the "experts" have been saying for decades "we're almost out of oil". There are some big deposits out there that are just coming on line (Sakhalin, Russia, with more oil and gas than the North Slope of Alaska, for example). And I don't know if its "good news" but Russia has more oil and gas than the entire middle east, just a "little bit" harder to get out of the ground.

Ed Svitil
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:54:00 -0500
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Most published information indicates that the world will run out of readily recoverable oil in the next 25 to 50 years. However, this has been the story for the past century, indicating that we constantly find ways to recover deposits that were not considered practical to recover in the past. There are also new discoveries, but the "experts" claim that all the really big deposits have been found.

these estimated generally do not include oil in tar sands and oil shale, both of which hold vast amounts of oil. the Canadians are recovering about a million barrels a day from tar sands, not an insignificant amount. Oil shale, located in Colorado and other places, is said to hold much more oil than the Saudis have, but we have no commercial process to recover it at present.

Coal deposits are said to be adequate for several centuries of consumption.

Ed Sproles
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Just one question....

Has anyone compared the current supply of crude oil and the approximate depletion of such to the amount of coal underground and how long it is estimated to last?? We ain't burying dinosaurs anymore.

Gary Price
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