Y class engines that received ex-B&LE tenders

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Right on all counts! I overlooked the '49; there were 21 original sets counting the ones salvaged from the 2092.

Ed
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Ed,

And that 2049 got a set of those new cylinders in 1929 as an experiment and test before the Y5s were built. These larger piston valve cylinders were interchangeable with the Y3, Y3a, Y4 and original Y5 frames. So there were 21 sets to begin with. My guess is that the original clylinders were kept around for replacement, too, since I have some 1950s shop records showing LP cylinder replacement and the replaced cylinders were the original style. Interesting, and a lot of conjecture.

Bud Jeffries
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Bud - don't forget that the 2092's front engine might have been used for a 2000; that would make 20.

EdKing
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Brent,

This is difficult to answer exactly. No document has ever been uncovered that lists which locomotives got the Y5 cylinders /frames. The large cylinders were interchangeable between the Y3, Y3a, Y4 and the Y5 with bar frames. Two others and myself have compared notes on photos we have seen with the larger LP cylinders, and we all don't agree in total on which locomotives got them. Between us there are 28 that got them and there were only 19 Y5's at the time they were modernized. This means that either these cylinders were switched from one engine to another or additional ones were cast after 1941. If you see a photo, note the date since some exist with the same locomotive at different times with and without these cylinders.
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Of the Y3/Y3a class engines that got these tenders, can you tell me which (if any) of these locomotives also had the former Y-5 front engines and which ones retained their original front engine?

Only the Y3a's got the B&LE tenders. 2055, 2056, 2063 and 2079 had B&LE tenders while having larger cylinders. 2061, 2062, 2065 and 2071 had these tenders with original size cylinders.
I would also like to find additional pictures of these locomotives. I have most of the available N&W books, so if you can give me the references and page numbers of published photos, or perhaps links to the VT photo archives while they are still accessable I would be most grateful.


Sincere thanks,

Brent

Tough to get a definitive answer on this one,

Bud Jeffries


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Dr. J. Brent Greer

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In 1953-54, the N&W purchased secondhand nine 22000-gallon tenders that had been used by the Bessemer & Lake Erie on its 2-10-4s. Of the nine the N&W got, one was applied to a K1 and the other eight to Y3a's. The 2061 had tender number 220304 which it received in January 1954 at the Roanoke Shops.

Bud Jeffries
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In the new issue of the Arrow, at the top of page 10, there is a photograph of Y3a #2061 leading a coal train.

The tender of this locomotive has a very different look to it, compared to other N&W tenders I am familiar with and have photographs of (for comparison, just look at the one behind Y3a #2070 at the end of the train in the lower picture of that same page)

Can someone please identify the tender in use behind #2061 in the upper photograph and perhaps supply some history as to its origins?

Sincere thanks for any and all responses.




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