Raleigh, Ohio

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Fred Mullins
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  Dave I am told the troop sleeper at NC Transportation Museum came from the old Norfolk Southern and it had been in MOW service. It has been fixed up and is used by volunteers who need to overnight at the museum. Perhaps Larry Neal at the museum can give you more details on the car and their history. Cal Reynolds.
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    Cal,

     

    Thanks, I have the CYC issue you're talking about.

     

    I agree, it is indeed a good one.

     

    What interests me is what happened to the cars after the government declared them surplus and sold them at auction. 

     

    Specifically, the railroads that converted them to express service by plating over the windows, sometimes removing the roof and side vents, removing the canvas diaphragms and buffers, sealing the end doors, fitting them with ice bunkers and express reefer goodies, eventually changing out the trucks, etc, etc. are my real interest.

     

    The (old) Norfolk Southern, Harry Bundy's alma mater, was one such railroad.

     

    Because the NS express troopers didn't seem to get interchanged offline (they don't even appear in the Official Register of Passenger Train Equipment-and I have most issues), there isn't a lot written about them and, of course, they weren't widely photographed. That's why Harry's comment about NS passenger trains immediately got my attention.

     

    Thanks for your interest and my best regards,

     

    Dave Lambert

     


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    Dave: Railroad Prototype Cyclopedia several issues back did a series on the troop sleepers and kitchen cars, quite good, lots of info. When I go home tonite I'll try to remember to look up the issue for you. Cal Reynolds

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      Harry,

       

      Thanks for the information.

       

      I have seen the Spencer trooper. If it were a former NS express car, the folks at Spencer must have removed the steel sheets that covered the windows while in express service because it looks much like it must have looked during wartime service.

       

      How many were there? (I thought I had heard three.) Do you have any recollection of the car numbers and their livery? Coach green/Dulux gold lettering?

       

      Thanks again, I always enjoy hearing from you.

       

      Best regards,

       

      Dave Lambert

       


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      Dave:

      In case you didn't know, one of the NS troop sleepers is preserved

      at the NC Museum of Transportation in Spencer.

       

      As far as I know, the express cars were not interchanged --

      WHILE IN PASSENGER SERVICE.  Hauled in Nos. 1 and 2,

      they  terminated in Berkley at one end and at Glenwood Yard at

      the other.  At one time, they MAY have moved into Raleigh

      Union Station.   Some were converted into camp cars and

      one was assigned to the Raleigh wreck cars - NS 900 (derrick),

      a heavy weight Pullman, and a wheel car.  So  I've been told,

      the Raleigh wreck cars spent more time on the SAL than they

      did on NS, so the troop sleepers did go off-line.   In one instance,

      Southern was detouring their traffic around the washed away Tye

      River bridge and operated Greensboro-Raleigh on the "H" line, then

      SAL-RF&P to Washington.  There was a derailment on the "H" line

      and the Raleigh wreck cars went to the Southern.  At that point,

      Southern was considering detours on the NS - Charlotte to Raleigh,

      but I guess they didn't care to play "Jeopardy".

       

      Ironically, NS 900 survived the N&W/Sou merger.  It came to Roanoke

      Shops and exchanged booms with another derrick, then was

      reassigned to the Tennessee Division .

                                                      Harry Bundy

       


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