military Locomotives

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Hey Tim, Thanks for the info, We are trying to make sure we have the right 
numbers on the Engines, Just to let you know that there is a big dent on the 
Whitcomb right behind the F on the Firemans side, Larry Blake has a letter 
from you on the Whitcomb with a picture of the 8465  as a Mayland Midland, 
Just to let you know that on Sept. 3 the Whitcomb will be pulling a special 
trian out of Nelsonville
If you want you can Email me directly.
Nathan Robinette
rr2248 at dragonbbs.com



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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: military Locomotives



> The GE 45-ton was probably used at the Detroit Army Tank Plant, which was

> down to 2.5 miles of track and two GE 80-ton locomotives by the time rail

> operations ceased in 1997.

>

> USA 4005, a 60-ton Baldwin RS4TC built in 1954, was last used by the

> Defense Logistics Agency at its Columbus depot as its #54436.  DLA closed

> its remaining rail operations in the early 1990s after, according to one

> DLA employee working with rail matters, connecting Class I carriers were

> so unresponsive during the Gulf War mobilization.  DLA rail had been

> retained mainly in case of "the big one" and when a "big one" came along,

> trucks were largely used instead.  All DLA equipment was secondhand from

> the various military services, usually the Army.  Locomotives were sold

> off and rolling stock, which was usually of WW II and Korean War-era

> vintage, was typically scrapped in place, and then the rails were pulled

> up.

>

> USA 8465, a Whitcomb 65-ton, was indeed built in 1944 and was used by the

> East Washington Railway as its #102.  After the line's demise in 1978, it

> went on to become the first motive power for the Maryland Midland Railway,

> and later went to a quarry operation in Ohio.

>

> USA 8122, also a Whitcomb 65-ton, was one of two such locomotives used by

> the Hagerstown & Frederick Railway, an interurban that dieselized for a

> short while before ceasing operations entirely.  The 8122 also went to

> quarry service in Ohio.

>

> The trail for both locomotives can be confusing, since each may have been

> used in more than one location, and they may have been at the same

> location at one point.  Changes in corporate names, through locomotive

> sales or the purchase of an entire company by another, can also muddy the

> waters.  In any case, the 8122 was reportedly scrapped by 2000, while the

> 8465 was donated by Cargill in Bloomingburg, OH, to the Hocking Valley

> Scenic Railway on December 16, 2001.

>

> There appears to be some confusion as to the identify of this Whitcomb at

> the HVSR.  Because the railway found a wiring diagram for the 8122, the

> HVSR assumes it has the 8122.  The 8465 has a significant, distinguishing

> dent on the front left side, right by the letter F, and if the locomotive

> on the HVSR has that identical dent, it's a good bet it's the 8465, not

> the 8122.

>

> Tim Moriarty

> ==========

> Just to let you know that on the scenic railway that my Dad and I

> volunteer on which is the Hocking Valley Scenic Railroad.  We have three

> diesel Locomotives that were originally military.  They are a 45-ton GE,

> #7318, switcher built in 1943 and used at one time to switch flat cars

> with tanks in Michigan.  We also have a 65-ton Baldwin Lima Hamilton

> engine built for the US ARMY and it is #4005.  We also have a Whitcomb

> 65-ton center cab built about 1944 and it was originally USA 8465 (it is

> running on our line as  8122).

>

> You can find pictures of these on the Hocking Valley website. and if you

> have any info about these I am one of the historians on the HVSR.

>

>

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