NW Class J 1 - war babies

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Ken,

It is my pleasure!

I would like to see this article! I will be waiting for it!

The front view of J1 606 is printed in the "Memories of N&W Power"by 
Paul Carleton  and the 3/4 view of 605  is presented in Jeffries' N&W 
Giant of Steam and again in Ron Rosemberg's N&W Steam  (The Last 25 
Years), wich includes a diagram of the J1.

To my knowledge J1 HO model was made by Overland, but I never had one in 
my hands. Its a good choice for a Broadway Limited future relese!

bst rgds,

Luiz Affonso
lasarai at attglobal.net

nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:


> Many thanks Luiz! It is appreciated.

>

> Regarding other photos of the unstreamlined Class J, or J1. In service 

> shots are rare to say the least, much less a right hand side view. To 

> my knowledge of the company photographic files, which is fairly 

> extensive, there were three views shot by the company photographer, 

> builder portraits; the two in the book, one left hand side view, a 3/4 

> view at East End Shops, and a front end view (not published in the 

> book) negative numbers 30898, 30899, 30900, all 8x10 negatives, made 

> January 25, 1944.  The other view (No. 502506, a 4x5 negative) on 

> September 17, 1944 of the double header with the K2 in the book was 

> unknown. I found the negative while going through the files probably 

> about 1977, prior to my finding it, the negative had never been printed.

>

> It was probably an accident to have even been shot. In my interviews 

> with the company photographers, none could remember specific 

> instructions about not shooting the locomotives, but there was 

> commentary that since they did not appear like the Class Js, and the 

> photographers were shooting basically for advertising purposes, it is 

> a good chance they did not snap the shutter when one came into sight, 

> but waited until the arrival of another train with a streamlined 

> locomotive. With as many passenger  trains running as there were then, 

> another train would not be long in arriving, and the chances of a 

> streamliner were pretty good.

>

> There is an article in the N&W company magazine August 1944, pages 

> 374-375, entitled "An afternoon at Portsmouth (Ohio) Passenger 

> Station" a couple of other photos by George Perkinson, snapshots with 

> a view of a the 608 and possibly the 606, at Portsmouth. It is 

> diffiicult to make out whether it is a 6 or 8 in the halftone. These 

> photos are clearly snapshot-type photos, made by the local 

> correspondent. It is quite possible that prints were just provided to 

> the magazine department and discarded after article was published and 

> the negatives were never actually made a part of the company files, or 

> were purged when the files were cleaned out in the 1960s or so. And 

> yes, that did happen.

>

> If anyone wants, I'll be glad to scan and provide these pages to Ron 

> for posting on the web.

>

> I do know of a couple of reels of 16mm company film that are out takes 

> from the 1944 film "Modern Coal Burning Steam Locomotives" that 

> include films of a couple of J1's in service. If you have seen the 

> film, you know there is not a sign of a J1 in the finished film, even 

> though they were running around all over at this time. I am working on 

> the film to bring it to market in the future. They are only glimpses 

> of the J1s, one on a train, one at Shaffers Crossing but how many have 

> you seen in live and in color?

>

> Best

>

> Ken Miller

>

> On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:18 PM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

>

>> Dear Kenneth Miller,

>>

>> You wrote a GREAT book! I recomend it to any N&W fan!

>>

>> Please excuse me for disturbe you, but your book presents one of the 

>> few pictures of the un-streamlined pictures in actual service. Are 

>> there any other pictures? Are them available, or printes in any othe 

>> book?

>>

>> tks,

>>

>> Luiz Affonso Saraiva

>> a N&W fan from Brazil

>

>

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